<@ULVA73B9P> So i have a deployment A that runs ev...
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@Marvin So i have a deployment A that runs every 10 mins and i what the next schedule to wait if the current schedule doesn’t complete on time
m
To ensure that the next schedule of your deployment waits if the current one hasn't completed, you'll likely need to manage the scheduling behavior explicitly. While Prefect doesn't natively support this "wait if running" feature directly in its scheduling, you can implement a workaround using state checks and conditional logic. ### Approach: 1. Check Current Run State: Before starting a new run, check if the current or previous run is still in progress. 2. Conditional Start: Use conditional logic to delay the start of the next run until the current one completes. ### Example Implementation: Here's a conceptual example of how you might implement this using Prefect's API:
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python
from prefect import flow, task, get_client
import time

@task
def my_task():
    time.sleep(300)  # Simulates a long-running task

@flow
def my_flow():
    my_task()

def should_run_next():
    client = get_client()
    # Check the state of the last flow run
    # This is a placeholder logic - implement according to your needs
    last_run_state = client.get_last_run_state("my_flow")
    return last_run_state.is_completed()

if __name__ == "__main__":
    while True:
        if should_run_next():
            my_flow()
        time.sleep(600)  # Wait 10 minutes before checking again
### Notes: - State Management: You'll need to implement logic to fetch and check the state of the last run. The
get_client()
function is a placeholder for interacting with Prefect's API. - Custom Scheduling Logic: This approach involves custom scheduling logic since Prefect's built-in scheduler doesn't natively support waiting for previous runs. ### Documentation & References: - Review the Prefect API documentation for more details on managing flow states and scheduling. - Explore the task engine code for insights into task handling and state transitions. This approach should align with your preference for an imperative programming style. Let me know if you have further questions or need additional assistance!
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@Marvin Cant i use deployment id to check if there are any active runs before i run?
m
Yes, you can use the deployment ID to check for active runs before starting a new one. Here's how you can approach it: ### Steps to Check Active Runs Using Deployment ID: 1. Retrieve Deployment ID: Ensure you have the deployment ID for the flow you want to check. 2. Use Prefect Client API: Utilize the Prefect client API to query the state of runs associated with a specific deployment ID. ### Example Implementation: Here's a conceptual example of how you might implement this:
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python
from prefect import get_client
from prefect.orion.schemas.states import StateType

async def check_active_runs(deployment_id):
    client = get_client()
    # Retrieve all flow runs for the deployment
    flow_runs = await client.read_flow_runs(deployment_id=deployment_id)
    # Check if any of the runs are still active
    active_runs = [run for run in flow_runs if run.state.type == StateType.RUNNING]
    return len(active_runs) > 0

async def main():
    deployment_id = "your-deployment-id"
    if not await check_active_runs(deployment_id):
        # Trigger your next flow run
        print("No active runs. Proceeding to start a new run.")
    else:
        print("Active run detected. Waiting for completion.")

# Run the main function
import asyncio
asyncio.run(main())
### Key Points: - State Check: The example checks if any flow runs are in the
RUNNING
state. - Asynchronous Operations: This example uses asynchronous operations since Prefect's client API is async. - Client API: The
get_client()
function is used to interact with the Prefect API. ### References: - For more details on Prefect's deployment and scheduling capabilities, refer to the Prefect Deployment Documentation. This approach should fit well with your preference for an imperative programming style and using Python/Rust integration via PyO3. Let me know if you need further assistance!
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@Marvin Can I actually use variables instead ? I can actually use variables as a state to say active complete
m
Yes, you can use Prefect variables to manage state-like information for your flows. Prefect variables are mutable, named values that can be used to store and retrieve non-sensitive data, such as configuration or state indicators, to control the flow execution. ### How to Use Variables as State: 1. Create Variables: Use Prefect's API, UI, or CLI to create variables that can represent states like "active" or "complete." 2. Read and Write Variables: During flow execution, you can read from or write to these variables to manage your flow's behavior. ### Example Implementation: Here's a conceptual example of using variables to manage flow state:
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from prefect import flow, task, get_client
from prefect.orion.schemas.variables import Variable

@task
def check_and_update_state():
    client = get_client()
    
    # Retrieve the current state from variables
    active_state = client.read_variable(name="flow_state")
    
    if active_state == "active":
        print("Flow is currently active. Waiting for completion.")
        return False
    else:
        # Update state to active
        client.write_variable(Variable(name="flow_state", value="active"))
        return True

@task
def complete_flow():
    client = get_client()
    # Update state to complete
    client.write_variable(Variable(name="flow_state", value="complete"))

@flow
def my_flow():
    if check_and_update_state():
        # Perform flow tasks
        complete_flow()

if __name__ == "__main__":
    my_flow()
### Key Points: - State Management: Use variables to store a simple state, such as "active" or "complete." - Variable API: Use Prefect's client API to read and write variables. - Non-Sensitive Data: Remember that variables are not encrypted, so they should not contain sensitive information. ### References: - For more details on managing variables, refer to the Prefect Variables Documentation. This approach allows you to control flow execution based on variable states, fitting well with your imperative programming style. Let me know if you have more questions!
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@Marvin Can i use automation to achieve this.
m
Yes, you can use Prefect's automation features to manage flow schedules and states. Automations allow you to define triggers and actions based on specific conditions, such as flow run state changes, which can be very useful for your use case. ### How to Use Automation for Managing Flow Execution: 1. Define Triggers: Use the Automations API to set triggers based on flow run state changes, deployment status, or other conditions. For instance, you can trigger actions when a flow run enters a specific state, like "running" or "completed." 2. Configure Actions: Based on the triggers, define actions such as delaying the next run, sending notifications, or even canceling or restarting flows if they exceed expected durations or conditions. ### Example Use Case: - Trigger: Monitor the state of your flow runs. If a flow run remains in the "running" state for longer than expected, trigger an action. - Action: Delay the next scheduled run or notify a team member to investigate. ### Documentation & Resources: - For more details on setting up automations, refer to the Automations API Documentation. This method provides a programmatic way to manage flow execution and state transitions, aligning with your preference for automation and control in your workflows. Let me know if you need further details or examples!
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@Marvin my question is can i use automatic to not run cyclic jobs whne the previous schedule failed or is still running
m
Yes, you can use Prefect's automation features to prevent cyclic jobs from running if the previous schedule failed or is still running. Here's how you can achieve this: ### Steps to Use Automation for Conditional Scheduling: 1. Set Up Triggers: - Use flow run state change triggers to detect if a flow is still running or has failed. - You can configure these triggers to check the state of the last flow run before starting a new one. 2. Define Actions: - Based on the trigger conditions, you can define actions to skip or delay the next scheduled run. - You can also set up notifications or other corrective actions if a flow fails. ### Example Implementation: - Trigger: Monitor the last flow run state. If it's still "running" or has "failed," do not start a new run. - Action: Automatically pause the schedule or prevent the next run from starting. ### Automations API: Prefect's Automations API allows you to set up these triggers and actions programmatically. This can be configured to check for specific conditions and take appropriate actions without manual intervention. ### Documentation: For detailed guidance on setting up these automations, refer to the Prefect Automations Documentation. By leveraging these features, you can ensure that your cyclic jobs only run when the previous schedule has completed successfully, thus preventing overlapping or redundant runs. Let me know if you need more specific examples or further assistance!