<@ULVA73B9P> we load a huggingface one shot classi...
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@Marvin we load a huggingface one shot classification model in our task: @task(name="initialize_classifier", cache_policy=NONE, cache_key_fn=None, retries=2) def initialize_classifier_task(): """Initialize the zero-shot classification model""" logger = get_run_logger() # Device setup if torch.backends.mps.is_available(): device = "mps" logger.info("Using MPS (Metal) acceleration") elif torch.cuda.is_available(): device = 0 logger.info("Using CUDA GPU") else: device = -1 logger.info("Using CPU") logger.info(f"Loading model: {MODEL_NAME}...") classifier = pipeline( "zero-shot-classification", model=MODEL_NAME, device=device, torch_dtype=torch.float32, ) logger.info("Model loaded successfully!") return classifier, device But sometimes it loads forever, longer than 1 minute, and never stops the task. But normally it loads in 30 seconds an proceeds wuth the flow as usual. Also out server and worker memory usage in k8s shows normal values (under 50%)
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But, i see in k8s that i get a "Job has reached the specified backoff limit" error: kind: Event apiVersion: v1 metadata: name: eggplant-trout-mfqn7.18817aa3533305a0 namespace: prefect uid: f8d93e47-a4d9-4b8c-a4ff-af8d0c463ef0 resourceVersion: '117497973' creationTimestamp: '2025-12-15T193610Z' managedFields: - manager: kube-controller-manager operation: Update apiVersion: v1 time: '2025-12-15T193610Z' fieldsType: FieldsV1 fieldsV1: fcount {} ffirstTimestamp {} finvolvedObject {} flastTimestamp {} fmessage {} freason {} freportingComponent {} fsource fcomponent {} ftype {} involvedObject: kind: Job namespace: prefect name: eggplant-trout-mfqn7 uid: 77a2c4cf-101e-4613-9a76-ed9fdc5304a9 apiVersion: batch/v1 resourceVersion: '117497970' reason: BackoffLimitExceeded message: Job has reached the specified backoff limit source: component: job-controller firstTimestamp: '2025-12-15T193610Z' lastTimestamp: '2025-12-15T193610Z' count: 1 type: Warning eventTime: null reportingComponent: job-controller reportingInstance: ''
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Thanks for the detail — this is a common gotcha when loading large HF/torch models inside a task. What’s happening - Prefect will only stop a task if you set a timeout. However, even with
timeout_seconds
, timeouts are cooperative and cannot interrupt long-running C extensions like PyTorch/Transformers model loading. If the load is stuck inside compiled code or a blocked system call, the Python-level timeout won’t fire until control returns to Python. - That explains “loads forever” — without a hard boundary, the task will wait indefinitely if the HF/torch call hangs. Relevant docs and source - Timeouts/cancellation guide: How to cancel workflows if they run too long - Task timeout behavior in code: utilities/timeout.py and task_engine.py (where task timeouts are applied) - Cancellation implementation details: cancellation.py (notes on limitations around C extensions) What I recommend 1) Add a task timeout anyway (soft guard) - This won’t kill a stuck torch load, but it will fail/retry quickly when the hang is not in C (e.g., Python-level I/O). - Consider jitter to avoid thundering herds.
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@task(
  name="initialize_classifier",
  retries=2,
  retry_delay_seconds=[15, 60],
  retry_jitter_factor=0.3,
  timeout_seconds=90,  # soft timeout
)
def initialize_classifier_task():
    logger = get_run_logger()

    if torch.backends.mps.is_available():
        device = "mps"
        <http://logger.info|logger.info>("Using MPS (Metal) acceleration")
    elif torch.cuda.is_available():
        device = 0
        <http://logger.info|logger.info>("Using CUDA GPU")
    else:
        device = -1
        <http://logger.info|logger.info>("Using CPU")

    <http://logger.info|logger.info>(f"Loading model: {MODEL_NAME}...")

    # Strongly consider preventing network on init to avoid hangs
    classifier = pipeline(
        "zero-shot-classification",
        model=MODEL_NAME,
        device=device,
        torch_dtype=torch.float32,
        # local_files_only=True,  # enable if you pre-bundle weights
    )
    <http://logger.info|logger.info>("Model loaded successfully!")
    return classifier, device
2) For a hard stop, load in a subprocess with an OS-enforced timeout - Python can’t interrupt torch C code, but the OS can kill a stuck subprocess. You cannot pass the pipeline object back across processes, so the typical pattern is: - Move model use into the subprocess as well (load + do work + return results) - Or run a long-lived model-serving process (HTTP/gRPC) and call it from Prefect Example (subprocess for “health check”/warmup; adapt to also run your inference and return results instead of trying to return the pipeline):
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@task(retries=2, retry_delay_seconds=30)
def warmup_model_hard_timeout(timeout=60):
    import sys, subprocess, textwrap
    code = textwrap.dedent(f"""
        import torch
        from transformers import pipeline
        pipe = pipeline("zero-shot-classification", model="{MODEL_NAME}", device=-1, torch_dtype=torch.float32)
        out = pipe("warmup", candidate_labels=["a","b"])
        print("READY")
    """)
    try:
        p = subprocess.run([sys.executable, "-c", code], timeout=timeout, capture_output=True, text=True)
        p.check_returncode()
        if "READY" not in p.stdout:
            raise RuntimeError(f"Warmup failed: {p.stdout} {p.stderr}")
        return True
    except subprocess.TimeoutExpired:
        raise RuntimeError(f"Model warmup exceeded {timeout}s (killed)")
If you need to keep the model in memory for multiple calls, consider: - Running a small model-serving container (FastAPI/uvicorn) in the same pod or as a separate service and call it from Prefect.
- Or restructure each classification to run inside the subprocess (load + infer), accepting the load cost and caching weights on disk. 3) Reduce the chance of hangs during load - Pre-bundle weights: Bake the model into your image or mount a persistent volume with the HF cache, then set
HF_HOME
to that path and pass
local_files_only=True
to
pipeline
. - Pin a
revision
for the model to avoid changing downloads. - Ensure egress/network stability if you’re pulling from the Hub; intermittent network stalls can look like a “hang”. - Optional envs that can help with observability and faster transfers: -
TRANSFORMERS_VERBOSITY=info
-
HF_HUB_ENABLE_HF_TRANSFER=1
-
HF_HUB_DISABLE_TELEMETRY=1
4) Add a flow-level backstop timeout (optional) - You can also set a timeout on the flow to fail the entire run if something truly runaway occurs. A couple of clarifying questions to tailor the fix: - Are you on Prefect 3.x and running on Linux in K8s? (Timeouts are not supported on Windows.) - Do you see any HF downloads during the “stuck” runs, or is the model fully cached? - Do you need to reuse the in-memory classifier across multiple tasks, or could you move loading + inference into a single step (or a model-serving sidecar)? If you share the exact
MODEL_NAME
and Transformers/Torch versions, I can suggest concrete
pipeline(...)
flags and a Dockerfile snippet to pre-bundle the model.
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@Marvin What do you mean with this? Do you need to reuse the in-memory classifier across multiple tasks, or could you move loading + inference into a single step (or a model-serving sidecar)?
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Great question — I meant the trade-offs between keeping a model in memory inside your Prefect run vs. isolating it in another process/service so you can enforce hard timeouts. Here are the options and what they imply: 1) Reuse an in-memory classifier inside the Prefect run - Pattern: One task loads the model, later tasks reuse it (by returning it or via a module-level singleton). - Pros: Fast inference after the first load; simplest code. - Cons: - If the load hangs inside torch/transformers C code, Prefect’s
timeout_seconds
can’t interrupt it. - Passing the pipeline object between tasks can break if it needs pickling (e.g., different task runners or distributed execution). It’s not reliably serializable. - Reuse is only within a single flow run; the process ends after the run, so you’ll reload on the next run. 2) Load and run inference in the same task (no reuse) - Pattern: Each inference task loads the model and immediately runs inference. - Pros: Easy to wrap with a subprocess for a hard timeout; isolates hangs to a single task call. - Cons: You pay the model load cost every time — slow and wasteful unless you do very few inferences per run. - When you need a hard timeout, this is the simplest to implement now. 3) Model-serving sidecar/service (recommended for reuse + hard timeouts) - Pattern: Run a separate long-lived process (e.g., a FastAPI/uvicorn server) that loads the model once and serves requests. Your Prefect task calls it over HTTP/gRPC with client-side timeouts. - Pros: - Model is warm and reused across many flow runs. - You can enforce timeouts at the request layer and use K8s liveness/readiness probes to kill/restart the server if it hangs. - Fully isolates model C-level hangs from your Prefect worker. - Cons: Requires deploying/operating an extra component (sidecar container in the same pod, or a separate service). 4) Advanced: a managed worker process you can restart - Pattern: Maintain a long-lived subprocess (or a small process pool) that loads the model once. Send inference jobs via a queue/IPC. If a job exceeds a deadline, terminate that process and respawn it. - Pros: Reuse the model across requests without a full HTTP service; you can still hard-kill a hung process. - Cons: More code to manage lifecycle and restarts; similar operational complexity to a microservice. How to choose - If you do many inferences per run or across runs: use a model-serving sidecar/service so you load once and enforce hard timeouts robustly. - If you do few inferences and want simplicity now: do load+infer in a single task and wrap it in a subprocess with an OS-enforced timeout. - If you tried to pass the pipeline object between tasks: expect serialization and execution-environment pitfalls; it’s not a safe long-term pattern. If you share: - How many inferences you run per flow (and per day), - Whether you run on a Kubernetes worker (one pod per flow run) and - Whether operating a small sidecar service is acceptable, I can suggest a concrete design (FastAPI sidecar example + Prefect task client with timeouts), or a subprocess-wrapped single-task pattern you can drop in.