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@Marvin can you help me understand the compose script and explain each service? services: postgres: image: postgres:14 environment: POSTGRES_USER: prefect POSTGRES_PASSWORD: prefect POSTGRES_DB: prefect volumes: - postgres_data:/var/lib/postgresql/data healthcheck: test: ["CMD-SHELL", "pg_isready -U prefect"] interval: 5s timeout: 5s retries: 5 redis: image: redis:7 volumes: - redis_data:/data healthcheck: test: ["CMD-SHELL", "redis-cli ping"] interval: 5s timeout: 5s retries: 5 prefect-server: image: prefecthq/prefect:3-latest depends_on: postgres: condition: service_healthy redis: condition: service_healthy environment: PREFECT_API_DATABASE_CONNECTION_URL: postgresql+asyncpg://prefect:prefect@postgres:5432/prefect PREFECT_SERVER_API_HOST: 0.0.0.0 PREFECT_MESSAGING_BROKER: prefect_redis.messaging PREFECT_MESSAGING_CACHE: prefect_redis.messaging PREFECT_REDIS_MESSAGING_HOST: redis PREFECT_REDIS_MESSAGING_PORT: 6379 PREFECT_REDIS_MESSAGING_DB: 0 command: prefect server start --no-services --analytics-off ports: - "4200:4200" prefect-worker: image: prefecthq/prefect:3-latest depends_on: postgres: condition: service_healthy redis: condition: service_healthy environment: PREFECT_API_DATABASE_CONNECTION_URL: postgresql+asyncpg://prefect:prefect@postgres:5432/prefect PREFECT_MESSAGING_BROKER: prefect_redis.messaging PREFECT_MESSAGING_CACHE: prefect_redis.messaging PREFECT_REDIS_MESSAGING_HOST: redis PREFECT_REDIS_MESSAGING_PORT: 6379 PREFECT_REDIS_MESSAGING_DB: 0 command: prefect server services start prefect-worker-process: image: prefecthq/prefect:3-latest depends_on: prefect-server: condition: service_started environment: PREFECT_API_URL: http://prefect-server:4200/api command: prefect worker start --pool worker-pool-example --type process volumes: postgres_data: redis_data:
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Absolutely — here’s a clear walkthrough of what each service in your Docker Compose file does, why it’s there, and a few important fixes/recommendations. High-level overview (Prefect 3.x) - postgres: Stores Prefect’s state and metadata (flows, runs, blocks, etc.). - redis: Powers Prefect’s messaging and cache layers. - prefect-server: Runs Prefect’s web UI and API. - prefect-worker: Despite the name, this is not a “worker”; it starts Prefect’s background services (scheduler, late-run detection, etc.) separate from the web server. - prefect-worker-process: This is the actual worker process that polls a work pool and executes flow runs. Service-by-service explanation - postgres - Image: Postgres 14 - Environment: Creates a
prefect
DB with user/password
prefect
- Volume: Persists DB data across container restarts - Healthcheck: Uses
pg_isready
to ensure the DB is ready before other services start - redis - Image: Redis 7 - Volume: Persists Redis data - Healthcheck: Uses
redis-cli ping
to ensure Redis is responding - prefect-server - Image:
prefecthq/prefect:3-latest
- Depends on: Waits until Postgres and Redis are healthy - Environment: - `PREFECT_API_DATABASE_CONNECTION_URL`: Tells Prefect Server how to connect to Postgres (async SQLAlchemy URL) - `PREFECT_SERVER_API_HOST: 0.0.0.0`: Binds the API/UI to all interfaces in the container -
PREFECT_MESSAGING_*
and `PREFECT_REDIS_*`: Configure Prefect’s messaging to use your Redis service - Command:
prefect server start --no-services --analytics-off
- Runs only the web server (UI + API). The actual services (scheduler, etc.) are started in a separate container (see next service). - Ports:
4200:4200
exposes the UI and API at http://localhost:4200 - prefect-worker - Image:
prefecthq/prefect:3-latest
- Despite the name, this is the “server services” runner - Depends on: Postgres/Redis healthy - Environment: Same DB + Redis vars as the server (the services need these) - Command:
prefect server services start
- Starts all enabled Prefect services (scheduler, late runs, etc.) in one process - Verified via
prefect server services start --help
- prefect-worker-process - Image:
prefecthq/prefect:3-latest
- This is the actual worker that executes flows - Depends on:
prefect-server
started (so it can reach the API) - Environment: - `PREFECT_API_URL`: Points the worker to your Prefect API (the internal service name
prefect-server
is correct inside the compose network) - Command (needs a small fix; see below): - You have:
prefect worker start --pool worker-pool-example --type process
- Correct:
prefect worker start --pool worker-pool-example
- The
--type
flag is not valid on
prefect worker start
in Prefect 3.x. The worker type is defined on the work pool itself when you create it. - Verified with
prefect worker start --help
Important fixes and recommendations 1) Remove angle brackets in environment values - In your compose, you have: -
PREFECT_API_DATABASE_CONNECTION_URL: <postgresql+asyncpg://prefect:prefect@postgres:5432/prefect>
-
PREFECT_API_URL: <http://prefect-server:4200/api>
- Those angle brackets are placeholders — if left as-is, Prefect will read them literally and fail. - Use: -
PREFECT_API_DATABASE_CONNECTION_URL: <postgresql+asyncpg://prefect:prefect@postgres:5432/prefect>
-
PREFECT_API_URL: <http://prefect-server:4200/api>
2) Fix the worker start command - Create the work pool once (outside of compose) with the type: -
prefect work-pool create "worker-pool-example" --type process
- Then start your worker with: -
prefect worker start --pool worker-pool-example
- We validated the CLI: -
prefect worker start
requires
--pool
and does not accept
--type
-
prefect work-pool create
is where
--type
is used 3) Consider renaming services for clarity
-
prefect-worker
prefect-services
(it runs the server services, not a worker) -
prefect-worker-process
prefect-worker
(this is the actual worker) 4) Optional: add a healthcheck to prefect-server - Right now,
prefect-worker-process
waits for
service_started
, not “healthy”. - You can add a healthcheck to Prefect Server so the worker waits for the API to be live: - Example:
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healthcheck:
      test: ["CMD-SHELL", "curl -sf <http://localhost:4200/api/health> || exit 1"]
      interval: 5s
      timeout: 5s
      retries: 10
- Then change the worker’s
depends_on
to
condition: service_healthy
Cleaned-up compose with the fixes applied - This keeps your split “webserver” and “services” pattern, removes angle brackets, and fixes the worker command.
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services:
  postgres:
    image: postgres:14
    environment:
      POSTGRES_USER: prefect
      POSTGRES_PASSWORD: prefect
      POSTGRES_DB: prefect
    volumes:
      - postgres_data:/var/lib/postgresql/data
    healthcheck:
      test: ["CMD-SHELL", "pg_isready -U prefect"]
      interval: 5s
      timeout: 5s
      retries: 5

  redis:
    image: redis:7
    volumes:
      - redis_data:/data
    healthcheck:
      test: ["CMD-SHELL", "redis-cli ping"]
      interval: 5s
      timeout: 5s
      retries: 5

  prefect-server:
    image: prefecthq/prefect:3-latest
    depends_on:
      postgres:
        condition: service_healthy
      redis:
        condition: service_healthy
    environment:
      PREFECT_API_DATABASE_CONNECTION_URL: <postgresql+asyncpg://prefect:prefect@postgres:5432/prefect>
      PREFECT_SERVER_API_HOST: 0.0.0.0
      PREFECT_MESSAGING_BROKER: prefect_redis.messaging
      PREFECT_MESSAGING_CACHE: prefect_redis.messaging
      PREFECT_REDIS_MESSAGING_HOST: redis
      PREFECT_REDIS_MESSAGING_PORT: 6379
      PREFECT_REDIS_MESSAGING_DB: 0
    command: prefect server start --no-services --analytics-off
    ports:
      - "4200:4200"
    # Optional: add a healthcheck so workers wait for a healthy API
    # healthcheck:
    #   test: ["CMD-SHELL", "curl -sf <http://localhost:4200/api/health> || exit 1"]
    #   interval: 5s
    #   timeout: 5s
    #   retries: 10

  prefect-services:
    image: prefecthq/prefect:3-latest
    depends_on:
      postgres:
        condition: service_healthy
      redis:
        condition: service_healthy
    environment:
      PREFECT_API_DATABASE_CONNECTION_URL: <postgresql+asyncpg://prefect:prefect@postgres:5432/prefect>
      PREFECT_MESSAGING_BROKER: prefect_redis.messaging
      PREFECT_MESSAGING_CACHE: prefect_redis.messaging
      PREFECT_REDIS_MESSAGING_HOST: redis
      PREFECT_REDIS_MESSAGING_PORT: 6379
      PREFECT_REDIS_MESSAGING_DB: 0
    command: prefect server services start

  prefect-worker:
    image: prefecthq/prefect:3-latest
    depends_on:
      prefect-server:
        condition: service_started # change to service_healthy if you add the healthcheck
    environment:
      PREFECT_API_URL: <http://prefect-server:4200/api>
    command: prefect worker start --pool worker-pool-example

volumes:
  postgres_data:
  redis_data:
How to bring this up and run flows 1) Start the stack: -
docker compose up -d
- UI will be at http://localhost:4200 2) Create the work pool (one time): -
prefect work-pool create "worker-pool-example" --type process
3) Start your worker (compose already does this). It will poll the pool and execute runs. Notes - The
PREFECT_MESSAGING_*
settings are configuring Prefect’s messaging provider to use Redis. The host/port/db point to your Redis service. - For production, change your Postgres credentials, consider secrets management, and ensure you persist volumes and secure the UI/API behind your network policies or a reverse proxy. - If you prefer a simpler setup, you can run everything in a single container with
prefect server start
(without
--no-services
) and remove the
prefect-services
container.
If you share how you plan to deploy (local dev vs. production) I can tailor this further and help with pool creation, TLS, or adding a reverse proxy. Relevant docs: Self-hosting Prefect and Workers and Work Pools.
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@Marvin what components are used if prefecct is ran in my local environment fn vs non fn? without the compose
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thought for 185.4 seconds
Great question — and quick clarifier: when you say “fn vs non fn”, do you mean: - Prefect Functions (Cloud) vs. traditional worker-based runs, or - Running a local Prefect server with/without external services (Postgres/Redis)? Here’s a concise breakdown of what runs locally “without Compose” in the common cases: Local server without Docker Compose - Command:
prefect server start
- Components used by default: - Database: SQLite (a local file under your Prefect home directory); no Postgres needed - Messaging/Cache: In-memory; no Redis needed - Services: Background services (scheduler, late-run detection, etc.) run in the same process by default - UI/API: http://127.0.0.1:4200 - Notes: - Add
--no-services
if you only want the web UI/API and plan to run services separately (less common locally) - You can still override to use Postgres/Redis by setting env vars like
PREFECT_API_DATABASE_CONNECTION_URL
or
PREFECT_MESSAGING_*
Run a worker locally against Prefect Cloud (no local server) - You don’t need any local Postgres/Redis or a local server - Set your API to Cloud and start a worker:
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prefect config set PREFECT_API_URL=<https://api.prefect.cloud/api/accounts/<acct>/workspaces/<ws>>
  prefect work-pool create my-pool --type process  # one-time
  prefect worker start --pool my-pool
- The worker polls Prefect Cloud and executes flows locally Self-hosted with external services (still without Compose) - If you do want Postgres/Redis without Compose, you can point Prefect at them:
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export PREFECT_API_DATABASE_CONNECTION_URL=<postgresql+asyncpg://user:pass@host:5432/db>
  export PREFECT_MESSAGING_BROKER=prefect_redis.messaging
  export PREFECT_MESSAGING_CACHE=prefect_redis.messaging
  export PREFECT_REDIS_MESSAGING_HOST=redis-host
  export PREFECT_REDIS_MESSAGING_PORT=6379
  prefect server start
- This mirrors what your Compose file did but with your own managed services What runs by default (summary) - Database: SQLite (local file) - Messaging: in-memory - Cache: in-memory - Services: enabled, run in-process with the server unless you use
--no-services
Relevant docs for deeper detail - Server CLI: prefect server CLI - Settings (DB and messaging): Prefect settings reference - Workers and pools: Workers and Work Pools - Self-hosting overview: Self-hosting Prefect If by “fn” you meant Prefect Functions (Cloud), those do not use your local Postgres/Redis either — they run on Prefect’s managed infrastructure. Let me know which “fn” you meant and I’ll tailor the specifics.
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@Marvin i meant if run a flow locally without an preexisting local or remote server either with flow function .fn() or without .fn()
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@Marvin I like to understand which components are spun up if i run a flow locally with .fn() or without .fn() I need to understand which components are spun up and wdhich are not