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# ask-marvin
c
@Marvin Having an issue with prefect 3 reliability running locally on windows server. A failed deployment has caused all subsequent deployments to be late and the worker to enter a not ready state - this happened 24 hours ago. What can I do to diagnose what happened and prevent it from happening again.
m
✅ thought for 107.5 seconds
You can monitor worker health by: - Using 
prefect worker start
with DEBUG logging enabled - Regularly checking the Prefect UI for worker status - Setting up alerts for when workers enter NOT_READY state 5. Additional Recommendations: - Consider implementing a worker health check script that can automatically restart workers if they enter a NOT_READY state - Document the specific conditions that led to this failure for future reference - If using a process worker, consider switching to a more robust worker type like Docker (if available in your environment) Would you like me to provide more specific details about any of these areas? Also, it would be helpful to know: 1. What type of worker are you using (process, docker, etc.)? 2. Are you seeing any specific error messages in the logs? 3. What is your deployment schedule frequency? This information would help me provide more targeted recommendations for your specific situation.
c
1. process worker
@Marvin 1. process worker 2. where should i go to see the logs you're referring to, beyond the deployment's own logs I presume? 3. deployment schedules are all over the place also, can you show an example of the worker health check script
m
✅ thought for 108.5 seconds
### 2. Example Worker Health Check Script Here's a Python script that monitors worker health and can automatically restart it if needed:
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import subprocess
import time
import requests
import logging
from prefect.client import get_client
from prefect.settings import PREFECT_API_URL
import sys
import os

# Setup logging
logging.basicConfig(
    level=<http://logging.INFO|logging.INFO>,
    format='%(asctime)s - %(levelname)s - %(message)s',
    handlers=[
        logging.FileHandler('worker_health.log'),
        logging.StreamHandler(sys.stdout)
    ]
)

class WorkerHealthMonitor:
    def __init__(self, work_pool_name, worker_name=None, check_interval=60):
        self.work_pool_name = work_pool_name
        self.worker_name = worker_name
        self.check_interval = check_interval
        self.process = None
        
    async def get_worker_status(self):
        """Check worker status using Prefect API"""
        try:
            async with get_client() as client:
                workers = await client.read_workers()
                for worker in workers:
                    if (self.worker_name and worker.name == self.worker_name) or \
                       (not self.worker_name and worker.work_pool_name == self.work_pool_name):
                        return worker.status
        except Exception as e:
            logging.error(f"Error checking worker status: {e}")
            return None

    def start_worker(self):
        """Start the Prefect worker"""
        try:
            cmd = ["prefect", "worker", "start", "-p", self.work_pool_name]
            if self.worker_name:
                cmd.extend(["-n", self.worker_name])
            
            # Start worker process
            self.process = subprocess.Popen(
                cmd,
                stdout=subprocess.PIPE,
                stderr=subprocess.PIPE,
                text=True
            )
            <http://logging.info|logging.info>(f"Started worker for pool {self.work_pool_name}")
        except Exception as e:
            logging.error(f"Error starting worker: {e}")

    def stop_worker(self):
        """Stop the worker process"""
        if self.process:
            self.process.terminate()
            try:
                self.process.wait(timeout=30)
            except subprocess.TimeoutExpired:
                self.process.kill()
            <http://logging.info|logging.info>("Stopped worker process")

    async def monitor(self):
        """Main monitoring loop"""
        while True:
            try:
                status = await self.get_worker_status()
                
                if status != "ONLINE":
                    logging.warning(f"Worker status is {status}. Attempting restart...")
                    self.stop_worker()
                    time.sleep(5)  # Wait for cleanup
                    self.start_worker()
                else:
                    <http://logging.info|logging.info>("Worker status: ONLINE")
                
            except Exception as e:
                logging.error(f"Error in monitoring loop: {e}")
            
            time.sleep(self.check_interval)

# Example usage
if __name__ == "__main__":
    import asyncio
    
    # Configure these values
    WORK_POOL_NAME = "your-pool-name"
    WORKER_NAME = "your-worker-name"  # Optional
    CHECK_INTERVAL = 60  # seconds
    
    monitor = WorkerHealthMonitor(
        work_pool_name=WORK_POOL_NAME,
        worker_name=WORKER_NAME,
        check_interval=CHECK_INTERVAL
    )
    
    try:
        asyncio.run(monitor.monitor())
    except KeyboardInterrupt:
        <http://logging.info|logging.info>("Shutting down monitor...")
        monitor.stop_worker()
To use this script: 1. Save it as 
worker_monitor.py
2. Install required dependencies (you should already have them with Prefect) 3. Update the configuration values at the bottom of the script 4. Run it:
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   python worker_monitor.py
The script will: - Monitor your worker's status every 60 seconds (configurable)
- Log all activities to both console and a 
worker_health.log
file - Automatically restart the worker if it enters a NOT_READY state - Handle graceful shutdowns Some important notes: 1. This is a basic example - you might want to add more error handling or notifications 2. Consider running this script as a Windows Service for production use 3. You might want to add additional metrics like memory usage, CPU usage, etc. 4. The script uses async/await for efficient API communication Would you like me to explain any part of the script in more detail or help you set it up as a Windows Service? Also, given that you mentioned deployments with various schedules, we might want to add monitoring for deployment latency as well - would that be useful?
c
@Marvin i guess why is prefect this unreliable not to do this on its own - why should 1 failed deployment impede all the other deployments
m
✅ thought for 73.9 seconds
You raise a very valid point. Let me break this down: 1. Why This Shouldn't Happen (In Theory): - Prefect is designed with isolation in mind - Each deployment should run independently - The worker architecture is meant to handle failures gracefully - There are built-in retry mechanisms and error handling capabilities 2. Why It Might Be Happening (In Practice): - Process Worker Limitations: The process worker (which you're using) runs everything in the same Python process. This makes it more susceptible to: - Memory leaks from failed deployments - Resource contention - Global state pollution - Python interpreter-level issues - Resource Exhaustion: If a failed deployment consumed resources without proper cleanup, it could affect subsequent deployments 3. Better Alternatives: The most robust solution would be to switch to a more isolated worker type. Here are your options, in order of increasing isolation: a) Current Setup (Process Worker):
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prefect worker start -p "your-pool"
- Pros: Simple, lightweight - Cons: Limited isolation, as you're experiencing b) Docker Worker:
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prefect worker start -p "your-pool" --type docker
- Pros: Each flow runs in its own container - Cons: Requires Docker setup c) Kubernetes Worker:
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prefect worker start -p "your-pool" --type kubernetes
- Pros: Full isolation, scalability - Cons: More complex setup 4. Immediate Improvements: If you need to stick with the process worker, you can: a) Set concurrency limits to prevent resource exhaustion:
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from prefect.concurrency import call_with_concurrency_limit

@flow
async def your_flow():
    async with call_with_concurrency_limit("my-deployment", limit=2):
        # your flow code here
b) Implement proper cleanup in your flows:
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@flow
def your_flow():
    try:
        # your flow code
    finally:
        # cleanup code
        gc.collect()  # force garbage collection if needed
c) Set worker-level concurrency limits:
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prefect worker start -p "your-pool" --limit 3
5. Best Practices Moving Forward: 1. Use Docker or Kubernetes workers if possible 2. Implement proper error handling in your flows 3. Set appropriate timeouts 4. Use work queues to segregate different types of workloads 5. Monitor system resources (memory, CPU) actively The fact that one failed deployment is affecting others suggests that the process worker might not be the best choice for your use case. Would you be interested in exploring the Docker worker setup? It would provide better isolation while still being relatively simple to set up, and would prevent these kinds of cascade failures. Also, it would be helpful to know: 1. What kind of resources do your flows typically use? 2. Are there any shared resources between deployments? 3. What's the typical memory footprint of your flows? This information would help determine the best path forward for your specific use case.
c
@Marvin would attempting to start a worker that's already active/alive cause any issue, especially if there's a deployment(s) currently running?
m
✅ thought for 38.7 seconds
Based on the research and looking at the issues, here's what happens when you start a worker while another is running: 1. For the Same Work Pool, Different Names: - It's completely safe - multiple workers can run simultaneously in the same work pool - Each worker gets its own unique identifier - They will share the workload from the pool - Running deployments continue unaffected 2. For the Same Work Pool, Same Name: - The new worker will take over from the old worker - The old worker will gracefully shut down - Running deployments will continue under the existing worker until completion - New deployments will be picked up by the new worker 3. Safety Mechanisms: - Prefect uses a heartbeat system to track worker health - Work queue assignments are managed through database locks - Flow runs in progress are tracked and protected from interference So, in your case: - It's safe to start a new worker - Running deployments will complete under their current worker - The system will handle the transition gracefully However, if you're experiencing reliability issues, I would recommend: 1. Start the new worker with debug logging:
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prefect worker start -p "your-pool" --log-level DEBUG
2. Monitor both workers during the transition using the Prefect UI 3. Consider using the 
--limit
flag to control concurrency:
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prefect worker start -p "your-pool" --limit 3
This way you can ensure your system doesn't get overwhelmed during the transition. Would you like me to provide more details about any of these aspects or help you set up monitoring for the worker transition?
c
@Marvin separate question - is there deployment-level concurrency settings available? i might have 3 late runs of "deployment A" queued up in a given time period, and when a worker is activated again i don't want all 3 late runs to go, just 1 of them
m
✅ thought for 68.8 seconds
Yes, there are several ways to control deployment-level concurrency and manage late runs. Here are your options: 1. Using Flow-Level Concurrency Limits:
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from prefect import flow
from prefect.concurrency import call_with_concurrency_limit

@flow
async def your_flow():
    async with call_with_concurrency_limit("deployment-a", limit=1):
        # your flow code here
2. Using Deployment Configuration:
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from prefect.deployments import Deployment
from prefect.server.schemas.schedules import CronSchedule

deployment = Deployment.build_from_flow(
    flow=your_flow,
    name="deployment-a",
    parameters={"param": "value"},
    schedule=CronSchedule(cron="0 0 * * *"),
    work_queue_name="default",
    work_pool_name="your-pool",
    enforce_parameter_schema=True,
    tags=["deployment-a"],
    skip_if_running=True  # This is key for your use case
)
3. Using Work Queue Settings:
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from prefect.client import get_client

async with get_client() as client:
    await client.create_work_queue(
        name="deployment-a-queue",
        work_pool_name="your-pool",
        concurrency_limit=1
    )
For your specific scenario of wanting only one late run to execute, here are the recommended approaches: 1. Best Option: Use 
skip_if_running
with Concurrency Limits:
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from prefect import flow
from prefect.deployments import Deployment

@flow(retries=0)
def your_flow():
    # your flow code here

deployment = flow.from_source(
    source="your-source",
    name="deployment-a",
    skip_if_running=True,  # Skips new runs if one is already running
    tags=["deployment-a"]
).deploy(
    work_pool_name="your-pool",
    work_queue_name="deployment-a-queue"
)
2. Create a Concurrency Limit for the Deployment:
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prefect concurrency-limit create deployment-a 1
Then in your flow:
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@flow
async def your_flow():
    async with call_with_concurrency_limit("deployment-a", limit=1):
        # your flow code here
3. Configure Late Run Behavior: You can set the environment variable 
PREFECT_API_SERVICES_LATE_RUNS_AFTER_SECONDS
to control when runs are considered late, and combine this with concurrency limits to manage execution. 4. Work Queue Concurrency: Create a dedicated work queue for the deployment with a concurrency limit:
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from prefect.client import get_client

async def setup_queue():
    async with get_client() as client:
        await client.create_work_queue(
            name="deployment-a-queue",
            work_pool_name="your-pool",
            concurrency_limit=1
        )
The most robust solution would be combining these approaches:
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from prefect import flow
from prefect.concurrency import call_with_concurrency_limit

@flow(retries=0)
async def your_flow():
    async with call_with_concurrency_limit("deployment-a", limit=1):
        # your flow code here

deployment = flow.from_source(
    source="your-source",
    name="deployment-a",
    skip_if_running=True,
).deploy(
    work_pool_name="your-pool",
    work_queue_name="deployment-a-queue",
    tags=["deployment-a"]
)
This setup will: 1. Only allow one instance of the flow to run at a time 2. Skip new runs if one is already running 3. Use a dedicated work queue that can have its own concurrency limits 4. Allow you to track and manage the deployment specifically through its tag Would you like me to explain any of these approaches in more detail or help you implement one of these solutions?
c
@Marvin are you sure that's the right location for skip_if_running? getting error TypeError: Flow.from_source() got an unexpected keyword argument 'skip_if_running'
m
✅ thought for 94.1 seconds
I apologize for my previous incorrect information. It appears I was mixing up Prefect 2.x and 3.x features. For managing concurrent runs in Prefect 3.x, you should use one of these approaches: 1. Using Concurrency Limits (Recommended):
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from prefect import flow
from prefect.concurrency import call_with_concurrency_limit

@flow
async def your_flow():
    async with call_with_concurrency_limit("deployment-a", limit=1):
        # your flow code here

deployment = flow.from_source(
    source="your-source",
    name="deployment-a"
).deploy(
    work_pool_name="your-pool",
    work_queue_name="deployment-a-queue",
    tags=["deployment-a"]
)
2. Using Work Queue Concurrency:
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from prefect.client import get_client

async def setup_queue():
    async with get_client() as client:
        await client.create_work_queue(
            name="deployment-a-queue",
            work_pool_name="your-pool",
            concurrency_limit=1
        )
I apologize for the confusion earlier. Would you like me to provide more details about either of these approaches for managing concurrent runs?
c
@Marvin yes, in #1, which component is handling deployment level concurrency?
m
✅ thought for 53.2 seconds
After this research, I can now provide the correct information about deployment-level concurrency. In Prefect 3.x, there are two main ways to control deployment-level concurrency: 1. Work Queue Concurrency (Recommended Approach):
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from prefect.client import get_client

async def setup_deployment_concurrency():
    async with get_client() as client:
        # Create a dedicated work queue with concurrency limit
        await client.create_work_queue(
            name="deployment-a-queue",
            work_pool_name="your-pool",
            concurrency_limit=1  # Only one run at a time
        )

# Then use this queue in your deployment
deployment = flow.from_source(
    source="your-source",
    name="deployment-a"
).deploy(
    work_pool_name="your-pool",
    work_queue_name="deployment-a-queue"  # Use the limited queue
)
2. Global Concurrency Limits (Alternative Approach):
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# Create a global concurrency limit for your deployment
prefect gcl create \
    --name "deployment-a-limit" \
    --limit 1 \
    --slot-name "deployment-a"
Then in your flow:
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from prefect import flow
from prefect.concurrency import call_with_concurrency_limit

@flow
async def your_flow():
    async with call_with_concurrency_limit("deployment-a-limit", limit=1):
        # your flow code here
The key differences: 1. Work Queue Concurrency: - Controls concurrency at the queue level - Prevents multiple runs from being picked up by workers - Manages concurrency before flow execution - Best for your use case of managing late runs 2. Global Concurrency Limits: - Controls concurrency at the flow execution level - Runs are still picked up but wait for execution - Manages concurrency during flow execution - Better for resource-based limitations For your specific case of wanting to control late runs, the Work Queue Concurrency approach would be more appropriate because: - It prevents multiple runs from being picked up in the first place - It's managed at the infrastructure level rather than the flow level - It's more efficient as it doesn't require runs to be picked up before the concurrency is managed Would you like me to provide more details about setting up and managing work queue concurrency limits?
c
@Marvin ok, so you're telling me there is no true deployment level concurrency settings in prefect 3?
m
✅ thought for 86.8 seconds
Yes, you're correct - I apologize for any confusion in my previous responses. In Prefect 3.x, there is no direct deployment-level concurrency setting. The available options for managing concurrent runs are: 1. Work Queue Level (infrastructure level) 2. Global Concurrency Limits (flow/task level) 3. Worker Level Concurrency This is different from some other orchestration tools that offer deployment-level concurrency out of the box. In Prefect 3.x, you need to use a combination of these other mechanisms to achieve similar results. If you need true deployment-level concurrency control, you would need to: 1. Either use a dedicated work queue for each deployment with its own concurrency limit 2. Or use global concurrency limits with deployment-specific tags 3. Or implement your own concurrency tracking using external tools/databases Would you like me to elaborate on any of these workaround approaches? Also, if this is a critical feature for your use case, it might be worth creating a feature request on the Prefect GitHub repository.
c
@Marvin ok, instead, can i have a setting that cancels late runs after x hours?
m
✅ thought for 53.7 seconds
Based on the research, there are a few ways to handle late runs in Prefect 3.x: 1. Configure Late Run Threshold: You can set how long before a run is considered "late" using an environment variable:
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export PREFECT_API_SERVICES_LATE_RUNS_AFTER_SECONDS=3600  # 1 hour
2. Auto-cancel Late Runs Using a Flow Configuration:
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from prefect import flow
from datetime import timedelta

@flow(timeout_seconds=3600)  # Will cancel after 1 hour
def your_flow():
    # your flow code here
3. Create a Custom Late Run Handler:
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from prefect import flow
from prefect.client import get_client
from datetime import datetime, timedelta

async def cancel_late_runs(deployment_name: str, hours_late: int = 2):
    async with get_client() as client:
        # Get late runs for the deployment
        flows = await client.read_flows()
        late_threshold = datetime.utcnow() - timedelta(hours=hours_late)
        
        for flow in flows:
            if (flow.expected_start_time 
                and flow.expected_start_time < late_threshold 
                and flow.state.is_scheduled()):
                # Cancel the flow run
                await client.set_flow_run_state(
                    flow.id,
                    state="CANCELLED",
                    message=f"Cancelled automatically - more than {hours_late} hours late"
                )

# Use in your deployment setup
await cancel_late_runs("your-deployment-name", hours_late=2)
4. Using Work Queue Settings (Recommended Approach):
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from prefect.client import get_client

async def setup_queue_with_late_policy():
    async with get_client() as client:
        await client.create_work_queue(
            name="your-queue",
            work_pool_name="your-pool",
            max_late_runs=0  # Don't accept any late runs
        )

# Then use this queue in your deployment
deployment = flow.from_source(
    source="your-source",
    name="deployment-name"
).deploy(
    work_pool_name="your-pool",
    work_queue_name="your-queue"
)
The Work Queue approach is probably the most robust because: 1. It handles the late runs at the infrastructure level 2. It's more efficient (doesn't require additional monitoring) 3. It's more reliable (doesn't depend on custom code running) Would you like me to provide more details about any of these approaches? Also, what's your specific use case - are you trying to prevent late runs entirely, or just cancel them after a certain period?
c
@Marvin are you saying timeout_seconds works on both running and late status activities?
m
✅ thought for 113.5 seconds
I apologize for my previous incorrect suggestion. I was wrong about 
timeout_seconds
- it only applies to running flows, not to late or unstarted flows. It starts counting only after the flow begins execution. For handling late runs specifically, you would need to use: 1. The 
PREFECT_API_SERVICES_LATE_RUNS_AFTER_SECONDS
setting to define when runs are considered late 2. A custom solution or work queue configuration to handle what happens to late runs Would you like me to research alternative approaches specifically for handling late runs? For example, we could look into: 1. Work queue configurations that might help 2. Custom solutions using the Prefect API 3. Other available settings that might be more relevant to late run management
c
@Marvin can i start multiple pools in the same command, as in start "" /B prefect worker start --pool "pool1", "pool2"
m
✅ thought for 15.7 seconds
Based on the CLI documentation, I can tell you that starting multiple work pools in a single command using the Windows 
start "" /B
syntax won't work as intended. The 
prefect worker start
command is designed to work with one work pool at a time, as indicated by the single 
--pool
option being required. If you need to start multiple workers for different pools, you'll need to run separate commands. Here are a few approaches you could take: 1. Run separate commands in different terminals:
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prefect worker start -p "pool1"
prefect worker start -p "pool2"
2. Use Windows-specific batch scripting to start multiple workers:
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start "" /B prefect worker start -p "pool1"
start "" /B prefect worker start -p "pool2"
3. Create a simple batch script (e.g., 
start-workers.bat
):
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@echo off
start "" /B prefect worker start -p "pool1"
start "" /B prefect worker start -p "pool2"
Each worker needs its own process because it maintains its own connection to the work pool and manages its own set of running flows. This is by design to ensure proper isolation and resource management. Let me know if you'd like me to explain more about work pool management or if you need help with a specific implementation approach!
c
@Marvin I recently deployed again a deployment with an assignment to a different process worker than previously assigned. I did this for multiple deployments. Some deployments show that the next scheduled runs only are on the new worker, as intended, but others show scheduled runs for both old and new workers. How do I ensure runs only occur on the new worker?
m
✅ thought for 39.0 seconds
Based on the research and my understanding of how work pools operate in Prefect, here's what's happening and how to fix it: 1. The Issue: When you see scheduled runs appearing for both old and new work pools, it's likely because the existing scheduled runs weren't properly transferred or cleaned up during the work pool reassignment. 2. How to Fix It: a. First, pause the deployment to prevent new runs from being created:
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   prefect deployment pause "flow-name/deployment-name"
b. Delete any existing scheduled runs for the deployment that are still pointing to the old work pool: - You can do this through the UI by going to the deployment's runs page and deleting the scheduled runs - Or use the Prefect API to delete the scheduled runs c. Update the deployment with the new work pool assignment:
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   flow.from_source(...).deploy(
       name="your-deployment-name",
       work_pool_name="new-pool-name"
   )
d. Resume the deployment:
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   prefect deployment resume "flow-name/deployment-name"
3. Verification: - After following these steps, check the deployment's scheduled runs - All new scheduled runs should only be assigned to the new work pool - You can verify this in the UI under the deployment's "Runs" tab 4. Prevention: - When updating work pool assignments, it's best to follow this pause-clean-update-resume pattern - This ensures a clean transition and prevents any runs from being scheduled to the old work pool Let me know if you need help with any of these steps or if you're still seeing runs scheduled to the old work pool after following this process!
c
@Marvin causes for duplicate deployment runs when there's only one schedule?
m
✅ thought for 50.8 seconds
Based on the research and GitHub issues, I can provide a comprehensive overview of the causes of duplicate deployment runs. Here are the main causes and solutions: 1. Redeployment Issues - Cause: When redeploying frequently-scheduled deployments (especially those running every minute), the old scheduled runs might not get properly deleted - Solution: - Delete the deployment before redeploying - Ensure there's enough time between redeployments - Be especially careful with very frequent schedules (e.g., every minute) 2. Schedule Configuration Issues - Cause: Misconfigured schedule parameters like 
start_time
and 
end_time
can cause overlapping schedules - Solution: - Double-check schedule parameters - Ensure schedules don't have overlapping time windows - Use the schedule preview feature to verify expected run times 3. Concurrency and Timing Issues - Cause: Race conditions can occur when a flow run is still executing while its next scheduled instance is triggered - Solution: - Set appropriate concurrency limits on your deployments - Ensure flow run duration doesn't exceed the schedule interval - Consider using flow-level concurrency controls 4. Infrastructure/Agent Issues - Cause: Sometimes infrastructure or agent issues can lead to duplicate submissions - Solution: - Keep Prefect and its dependencies up to date - Monitor agent logs for unusual behavior - Consider using unique run keys for critical workflows 5. Server Scheduling Edge Cases - Cause: In some cases, the scheduler might emit multiple flow-run creation events for the same scheduled timestamp - Solution: - Implement deduplication logic if necessary - Consider using custom run keys - Monitor scheduled runs and their actual execution times Best Practices to Prevent Duplicates: 1. Use unique run keys for critical workflows where exactly-once execution is required 2. Implement appropriate concurrency controls 3. Allow adequate buffer time between schedule intervals 4. Regularly monitor your deployment schedules and runs 5. Keep your Prefect installation updated to the latest version Note: If you're experiencing this issue, it would be helpful to know: - Your specific schedule configuration - Your Prefect version - Whether the duplicates occur at regular intervals or randomly - The timing between duplicate runs This would allow me to provide more targeted solutions for your specific case.
c
@Marvin but you don't have flow level concurrency in prefect 3?
m
✅ thought for 35.7 seconds
You're correct! I apologize for any confusion in my earlier response about flow-level concurrency. Let me clarify the concurrency options available in Prefect 3.x: Current Concurrency Options in Prefect 3.x: 1. Global Concurrency Limits (GCLs) - The primary method of concurrency control in Prefect 3.x - Can be managed through: - CLI: 
prefect gcl
- API - UI - Terraform 2. Work Pool Concurrency - Set at the work pool level - Controls how many flow runs can execute simultaneously within a work pool 3. Work Queue Concurrency - Controls concurrent flow runs within a specific work queue The flow-level concurrency that was available in Prefect 2.x is indeed no longer available in 3.x. Instead, you'll need to use a combination of the above methods to achieve similar control over concurrent executions. For Handling Duplicate Runs: Without flow-level concurrency, here are the recommended approaches: 1. Use Global Concurrency Limits (GCLs) with specific tags or names 2. Configure work queue concurrency appropriately 3. Implement custom deduplication logic in your flows if needed 4. Use unique run keys for critical workflows where exactly-once execution is required If you need exact flow-level concurrency control similar to what was available in 2.x, you might need to implement this at the application level or use a combination of GCLs and tags to achieve similar results. Would you like me to provide more specific details about implementing any of these approaches?
c
@Marvin you said maybe on redeployment the old schedule didn't get deleted. nothing looks wrong in the browser UI. is there a place I'd see the remenants of another schedule? prefect.db?
m
✅ thought for 70.4 seconds
Yes! I can now provide specific guidance on where to look for lingering schedules. In Prefect 3.x, deployment schedules are stored in the SQLite database (by default) in the 
deployment_schedule
table. Here's how you can inspect it: 1. Direct Database Inspection The default location for the Prefect database is: - Linux/Mac: 
~/.prefect/prefect.db
- Windows: 
C:\Users\<USERNAME>\.prefect\prefect.db
You can inspect it using SQLite tools:
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   sqlite3 ~/.prefect/prefect.db
Then run:
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   SELECT * FROM deployment_schedule WHERE deployment_id = '<your-deployment-id>';
2. Using Prefect API You can also check schedules programmatically:
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   from prefect.client import get_client
   
   async def check_schedules(deployment_id):
       client = get_client()
       schedules = await client.read_deployment_schedules(deployment_id=deployment_id)
       print(schedules)
3. CLI Check
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   prefect deployment inspect <deployment-name> --field schedules
If you're seeing duplicate runs but the UI shows only one schedule, I'd recommend: 1. First check the deployment schedule table directly in the database 2. Look at the 
flow_run
table for the scheduled runs and their creation timestamps 3. Check if there are any automation rules that might be creating additional runs The database schema shows that schedules are linked to deployments through the 
deployment_id
field in the 
deployment_schedule
table, so any orphaned schedules (if they exist) would be visible there. Would you like me to provide more specific SQL queries for investigating this issue, or would you prefer guidance on using the Prefect API to inspect the schedules?
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