<@ULVA73B9P> im running into an issue where a pref...
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@Marvin im running into an issue where a prefect flow is submitting a lot of tasks to my server and I get prefect.exceptions.PrefectHTTPStatusError: Server error '503 Service Unavailable' for url 'http://localhost:4200/api/task_runs/'
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thought for 46.0 seconds
You can manage concurrency limits using the following approaches: a. Create a new concurrency limit:
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prefect concurrency-limit create TAG_NAME --slot-count N
b. View existing limits:
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prefect concurrency-limit ls
3. Server Configuration - If you're running your own Prefect server, consider increasing its resources - Check if your server has enough CPU and memory resources available - Monitor server logs for any other potential bottlenecks 4. Code Implementation Here's an example of how you can implement concurrency control in your flow:
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from prefect import flow, task
from prefect.tasks import task_input_hash
from datetime import timedelta

@task(cache_key_fn=task_input_hash, cache_expiration=timedelta(minutes=5))
async def your_task():
    # Your task logic here
    pass

@flow(task_runner=ConcurrentTaskRunner(max_concurrent_tasks=10))
def your_flow():
    # This will limit the number of concurrent tasks to 10
    for i in range(100):
        your_task.submit()
Would you like me to: 1. Provide more specific guidance about implementing concurrency controls in your flow? 2. Show you how to set up and manage global concurrency limits? 3. Help you investigate if there might be other issues causing the server overload? Please let me know which aspect you'd like to explore further, and it would also be helpful if you could share: - How many tasks are typically being submitted at once? - Are you running the server locally or in a production environment? - What kind of resources (CPU/memory) are available to your server?
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@Marvin in my prefect server logs this is showing up prefect.exceptions.PrefectHTTPStatusError: Server error '503 Service Unavailable' for url 'http://localhost:4200/api/task_runs/'
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thought for 55.9 seconds
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@Marvin sorry I mean in my prefect server logs, this is showing up: sqlalchemy.exc.OperationalError: (sqlite3.OperationalError) database is locked [SQL: INSERT INTO task_run (flow_run_id, task_key, dynamic_key, cache_key, cache_expiration, task_version, flow_run_run_count, empirical_policy, task_inputs, tags, labels, name, run_count, total_run_time, id, created, updated) VALUES (:flow_run_id, :task_key, :dynamic_key, :cache_key, :cache_expiration, :task_version, :flow_run_run_count, :empirical_policy, :task_inputs, :tags, :labels, :name, :run_count, :total_run_time, :id, :created, :updated) ON CONFLICT (flow_run_id, task_key, dynamic_key) DO NOTHING] [parameters: {'flow_run_id': 'dd9e7d2d-f7c5-4825-91a2-f6063c81a67f', 'task_key': 'split_and_get_image_set-53811d81', 'dynamic_key': '118', 'cache_key': None, 'cache_expiration': None, 'task_version': None, 'flow_run_run_count': 0, 'empirical_policy': '{"max_retries": 0, "retry_delay_seconds": 0.0, "retries": 0, "retry_delay": 0, "retry_jitter_factor": null}', 'task_inputs': '{"image_set": [{"input_type": "task_run", "id": "dd25525a-6922-4243-bbe1-d4dae0319a1d"}], "get": [], "by": [], "mode": []}', 'tags': '["polarisation-circular", "stokes-v"]', 'labels': '{"prefect.flow.id": "0b0da2a5-6d93-41c2-b8f5-93bef3fe757a", "prefect.flow-run.id": "dd9e7d2d-f7c5-4825-91a2-f6063c81a67f"}', 'name': 'split_and_get_image_set-118', 'run_count': 0, 'total_run_time': '1970-01-01 000000.000000', 'id': 'b9b1ade1-d949-4abe-800f-56505acee3d0', 'created': '2025-07-19 191852.227502', 'updated': '2025-07-19 191852.238707'}]
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thought for 61.9 seconds
Based on the server logs you're seeing and the research, here are several steps you can take to diagnose and resolve this issue: 1. Check Server Resources - Since you're running on localhost:4200, verify your local server has enough resources: - Check CPU usage - Monitor memory consumption - Ensure there's enough disk space - You can use standard system monitoring tools (like
top
or Task Manager) to check resource usage 2. Server Configuration - Make sure your Prefect server configuration is optimized:
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     # Check your server status
     prefect server status
     
     # If needed, restart your server
     prefect server start
3. Database Health - The task_runs endpoint interacts heavily with the database - Ensure your SQLite database (default for local server) isn't: - Corrupted - Running out of space - Experiencing locking issues 4. Version Check - Ensure you're running the latest version of Prefect, as some issues might be resolved in newer versions
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   pip install --upgrade prefect
5. Implement Rate Limiting In your flow code, you can add rate limiting to prevent overwhelming the server:
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   from prefect import flow, task
   import asyncio

   @task
   async def your_task():
       # Your task logic here
       pass

   @flow
   async def your_flow():
       tasks = []
       for i in range(100):  # Example with 100 tasks
           tasks.append(your_task.submit())
           if len(tasks) >= 10:  # Process in batches of 10
               await asyncio.gather(*tasks)
               tasks = []
           await asyncio.sleep(0.1)  # Add small delay between batches
To better help you resolve this, could you please provide: 1. How many tasks are typically running when you see this error? 2. Are you using SQLite (default) or PostgreSQL for your database? 3. What are the specifications of the machine running your Prefect server? 4. Can you share the relevant flow code that's generating these tasks? Also, as a temporary workaround while we diagnose the root cause, you could try: - Reducing the number of concurrent task submissions - Adding delays between task submissions - If possible, batching your tasks into smaller groups Would you like me to provide more detailed guidance on any of these approaches?
Based on the research and GitHub issues, I can provide several solutions to your SQLite database lock issue: 1. Immediate Solution - Reduce Concurrency: - Limit the number of concurrent tasks in your flow using the task runner:
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   from prefect import flow
   from prefect.task_runners import ConcurrentTaskRunner

   @flow(task_runner=ConcurrentTaskRunner(max_concurrent_tasks=5))
   def your_flow():
       # Your flow logic here
2. Recommended Solution - Switch to PostgreSQL: The SQLite database is not recommended for production use or high-concurrency scenarios. PostgreSQL is much better at handling concurrent connections. You can switch to PostgreSQL by: a. Setting up a PostgreSQL database b. Configuring Prefect to use it by setting the following environment variables:
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   PREFECT_API_DATABASE_CONNECTION_URL="<postgresql+asyncpg://user:password@hostname:5432/database_name>"
3. Alternative Solutions: a. If you must use SQLite temporarily: - Increase the SQLite timeout setting - Implement exponential backoff in your flow runs - Reduce the number of concurrent flow runs b. Consider using Prefect Cloud instead of self-hosted server 4. Best Practices to Minimize Lock Issues: - Batch your tasks where possible to reduce the number of database operations - Use caching when appropriate to reduce database writes - Implement proper error handling for database locks:
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   from prefect import flow, task
   from sqlalchemy.exc import OperationalError
   import time

   @task(retries=3, retry_delay_seconds=5)
   def your_task():
       try:
           # Your task logic here
           pass
       except OperationalError as e:
           if "database is locked" in str(e):
               time.sleep(1)  # Add some delay before retry
               raise  # This will trigger the retry mechanism
Would you like me to: 1. Provide more detailed guidance on setting up PostgreSQL for your Prefect server? 2. Show you how to implement more robust error handling for database locks? 3. Help you optimize your current flow to reduce database contention? Please let me know which aspect you'd like to explore further, and it would be helpful to know: - Are you running this in production or development? - Approximately how many concurrent tasks are you running? - Would switching to PostgreSQL be a viable option in your environment?
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@Marvin I see the error at 500+ tasks, using SQLite database, machine should be good enough
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thought for 19.5 seconds
Ah, 500+ tasks with SQLite is definitely pushing its limits, even on a good machine. SQLite is great for many things, but it wasn't designed for this level of concurrent access. Let me provide some specific recommendations based on your situation: 1. Immediate Solution - Task Batching Here's how you can modify your flow to batch tasks and reduce database contention:
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from prefect import flow, task
from typing import List
import asyncio

@task
async def your_task(item):
    # Your existing task logic
    pass

@flow
async def your_flow(items: List, batch_size: int = 50):
    all_results = []
    
    # Process items in batches
    for i in range(0, len(items), batch_size):
        batch = items[i:i + batch_size]
        # Submit batch of tasks
        batch_tasks = [your_task.submit(item) for item in batch]
        # Wait for batch to complete before moving to next batch
        batch_results = await asyncio.gather(*batch_tasks)
        all_results.extend(batch_results)
        
        # Optional: Add small delay between batches to reduce database pressure
        await asyncio.sleep(0.5)
    
    return all_results
2. Strongly Recommended Solution - Switch to PostgreSQL With 500+ tasks, you're definitely in PostgreSQL territory. Here's how to switch:
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# Install PostgreSQL dependencies
pip install "prefect[postgresql]"

# Set the database URL (adjust credentials as needed)
export PREFECT_API_DATABASE_CONNECTION_URL="<postgresql+asyncpg://user:password@localhost:5432/prefect>"
3. If You Must Stay with SQLite If you need to stick with SQLite temporarily, here's how to make it more robust:
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from prefect import flow, task
from prefect.task_runners import ConcurrentTaskRunner
from sqlalchemy.exc import OperationalError
import asyncio

@task(retries=3, retry_delay_seconds=exponential_backoff(backoff_factor=2))
async def your_task(item):
    try:
        # Your task logic
        pass
    except OperationalError as e:
        if "database is locked" in str(e):
            # Add randomization to prevent thundering herd
            await asyncio.sleep(random.uniform(0.1, 1.0))
            raise  # Will trigger retry with exponential backoff
        raise

@flow(task_runner=ConcurrentTaskRunner(max_concurrent_tasks=100))
async def your_flow(items: List):
    return await asyncio.gather(*[your_task.submit(item) for item in items])
4. Task Runner Configuration Adjust the concurrent task limit based on your machine's capabilities:
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@flow(
    task_runner=ConcurrentTaskRunner(max_concurrent_tasks=100),
    retries=2,
    retry_delay_seconds=30
)
Recommendations Based on Your Scale: 1. Short-term (Today): - Implement batching with 50-100 tasks per batch - Set
max_concurrent_tasks
to around 100 - Add small delays between batches (0.5-1 second) 2. Medium-term (This Week): - Switch to PostgreSQL - This will remove most concurrency issues - Will handle 500+ tasks much more reliably 3. Monitoring:
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   from prefect import get_client
   
   @flow
   async def monitor_flow():
       async with get_client() as client:
           # Monitor active runs
           runs = await client.read_flow_runs()
           print(f"Active runs: {len(runs)}")
Would you like me to: 1. Provide a complete example of batching implementation for your specific use case? 2. Show you how to set up PostgreSQL for Prefect? 3. Help you optimize the concurrent task settings for your specific machine? Also, it would be helpful to know: - Are these 500+ tasks similar in nature or very different? - What's the typical runtime of each task? - Are you running this on a single machine or distributed setup?
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@Marvin How do I switch to PostgreSQL database for my prefect server?
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thought for 88.0 seconds
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# Initialize/upgrade the database schema
prefect server database upgrade
Important Configuration Notes: 1. Replace
localhost
with your PostgreSQL server hostname if it's running on a different machine 2. Use a strong password instead of 'your_secure_password' 3. The default PostgreSQL port is 5432; adjust if you're using a different port 4. Make sure your PostgreSQL server accepts connections from your Prefect server's IP address (check pg_hba.conf) Troubleshooting: If you encounter issues: 1. Verify PostgreSQL is running:
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   pg_isready -h localhost -p 5432
2. Test the connection:
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   psql -h localhost -U prefect -d prefect
3. Check Prefect server logs:
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   prefect server logs
Would you like me to: 1. Provide more detailed PostgreSQL setup instructions? 2. Show you how to migrate your existing flows and data? 3. Help with any specific configuration aspects? Also, it would be helpful to know: - Are you running PostgreSQL on the same machine as your Prefect server? - Do you need to migrate existing flow data? - Are you running this in a production environment where high availability is needed?