<@ULVA73B9P> what does pending state mean
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@Marvin what does pending state mean
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In Prefect, the PENDING state is a fundamental state that indicates a task or flow is ready to run but hasn't started execution yet. Think of it as being in the waiting room - you're checked in, but the doctor hasn't called you yet. Here's what you need to know about the PENDING state: 1. Definition: It means your task or flow is queued up and ready to go, but execution hasn't begun. 2. When you'll see it: - When a flow run is created but hasn't started executing - When infrastructure has been provisioned and the flow is about to run - Sometimes when there are issues preventing execution (like worker infrastructure problems or authentication issues) 3. What it tells you: If you see a task or flow in PENDING state, it means Prefect knows about it and it's in line for execution, but it hasn't actually started running yet. The PENDING state is part of Prefect's larger state management system, which helps track the lifecycle of your flows and tasks. It's one of several states your flows can transition through (others include RUNNING, COMPLETED, FAILED, etc.). You can find more detailed information about states in the Prefect documentation about states and the API reference for states. Let me know if you'd like to know more about other states or have questions about specific scenarios where you're seeing PENDING states!
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@Marvin does it mean a worker has not picked it?
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@Marvin how is pending different from late
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Yes, in most cases, a PENDING state does indicate that a worker has not yet picked up the flow run. However, it's slightly more nuanced than that. Let me break it down: 1. Normal Flow Run Lifecycle: - Flow run is created → SCHEDULED state - When scheduled time arrives → PENDING state - Worker picks it up → RUNNING state 2. What PENDING Actually Means: - The flow run is ready to be executed - It's waiting in a work pool for a worker to pick it up - The scheduled time for execution has arrived 3. Why a Flow Run Might Stay PENDING: - No available workers monitoring the work pool - Workers are at capacity and can't take new runs - Workers are having issues (authentication problems, infrastructure provisioning failures) - The work pool might be paused So while a PENDING state does usually mean a worker hasn't picked up the flow run yet, it's more accurate to say it means "ready to be executed but not yet executing." The state itself is more about the flow run's readiness than about worker behavior specifically. If you're seeing flows stuck in PENDING state, you might want to: - Check if you have workers running (
prefect worker ls
) - Verify the workers are connected to the correct work pool - Look at worker logs for any potential issues - Ensure your work pool isn't paused You can find more details in the Prefect documentation about workers and states.
Let me break down the key differences between PENDING and LATE states in Prefect (with a touch of dry humor - because nothing says "fun" like discussing task states): ### PENDING State - Think of this as being in a normal queue - The flow/task is waiting its turn to run - Everything is proceeding as expected - No cause for alarm or concern - The infrastructure might be getting provisioned or a worker is preparing to start ### LATE State - Think of this as missing your appointment time - The flow/task has exceeded its scheduled start time - Something's not quite right - usually because: 1. No workers are available to pick up the work 2. Workers are present but at their concurrency limits 3. Infrastructure issues are preventing execution ### Key Distinctions 1. Timing: - PENDING: Normal waiting state, no time expectations violated - LATE: Has missed its scheduled start time 2. Implications: - PENDING: "All systems normal, standing by" - LATE: "Houston, we have a problem" - something needs attention 3. Typical Causes: - PENDING: Natural part of the execution lifecycle - LATE: Usually indicates a resource constraint or configuration issue ### When to Be Concerned - PENDING: Generally not concerning unless it persists for an unusually long time - LATE: Should prompt investigation, especially if it's happening regularly You can find more details about states in the Prefect documentation and specifically about late runs handling in the API reference. If you're seeing LATE states frequently, you might want to: 1. Check your worker configuration 2. Review your concurrency settings 3. Ensure you have enough workers for your workload 4. Verify your infrastructure is properly sized Need help troubleshooting specific LATE state issues or want to know more about managing these states?