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j
@Marvin I am running prefect v3 flows with a bunch of sub tasks. When i set the flow "timeout_seconds", some tasks will cancel when the flow runs past the timeout frame, while others do not cancel and continue to run to completion. This happens even when i set timeouts for individual tasks. Here is what the relevant settings for the flow look like:
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@flow(
    timeout_seconds=5,
    retries=0,
    retry_delay_seconds=0,
)
m
thought for 76.2 seconds
Based on the research and related issues, I can explain the behavior you're seeing with flow timeouts in Prefect 3.x: 1. The flow-level
timeout_seconds
parameter is meant to cancel all running tasks when the flow exceeds its timeout. However, there are some known limitations: 2. The inconsistent behavior you're seeing (some tasks canceling, others continuing) can occur due to a few factors: - Tasks that are already executing might not respond immediately to cancellation signals - Some task runners (like Ray) may not properly enforce timeouts - Tasks running in separate processes or distributed environments might not receive the cancellation signal properly To improve this situation, here are some recommendations: 1. Instead of relying solely on flow-level timeouts, implement task-level timeouts with proper error handling:
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python
from prefect import flow, task
from prefect.exceptions import TaskTimeout

@task(timeout_seconds=2)
def my_task():
    # Task logic here
    pass

@flow(timeout_seconds=5)
def my_flow():
    try:
        results = my_task()
    except TaskTimeout:
        # Handle timeout gracefully
        pass
2. For critical operations that must be cancelled cleanly, consider implementing your own timeout mechanism using asyncio or threading timeouts within the task itself. 3. If you need to ensure proper cleanup, consider using flow-level exception handlers to perform cleanup operations when timeouts occur:
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@flow(timeout_seconds=5)
def my_flow():
    try:
        # Flow logic here
        pass
    except TimeoutError:
        # Perform cleanup operations
        pass
    finally:
        # Always execute cleanup code
        pass
4. If you're using a specific task runner (like Ray), check if there are known issues with timeout handling for that runner. This is a known area where behavior can be inconsistent, particularly in distributed environments. If you need guaranteed timeout behavior, you might need to implement additional safeguards at the task level or within your task code itself. Would you be able to share what type of task runner you're using (if any) and the nature of the tasks that aren't properly canceling? This would help provide more specific guidance for your use case.
j
here is an example of a task that does successfully cancel when the parent flow cancels:
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@task(retries=0)
async def wait_awhile(
    seconds: int,
    logger: logging.Logger | logging.LoggerAdapter[Any],
):
    <http://logger.info|logger.info>(f"Waiting for {seconds} seconds...")
    await asyncio.sleep(seconds)
    <http://logger.info|logger.info>("Wait completed.")
here is an example of a task that does not cancel or only cancels after running multiple times:
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for name in names:
        task(process_names).with_options(
            task_run_name=f"processed_name_{_name}",
            persist_result=True,
            retries=0,
            timeout_seconds=5,
        )(
            logger=logger,
        )
@Marvin
@Marvin here is an example of a task that does successfully cancel when the parent flow cancels:
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@task(retries=0)
async def wait_awhile(
    seconds: int,
    logger: logging.Logger | logging.LoggerAdapter[Any],
):
    <http://logger.info|logger.info>(f"Waiting for {seconds} seconds...")
    await asyncio.sleep(seconds)
    <http://logger.info|logger.info>("Wait completed.")
here is an example of a task that does not cancel or only cancels after running multiple times:
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for name in names:
        task(process_names).with_options(
            task_run_name=f"processed_name_{_name}",
            persist_result=True,
            retries=0,
            timeout_seconds=5,
        )(
            logger=logger,
        )
m
thought for 108.8 seconds
Based on the research, here's how to fix your code to ensure proper cancellation behavior: 1. First, define your task properly with an async definition:
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@task(retries=0)
async def process_names(name: str, logger: logging.Logger):
    <http://logger.info|logger.info>(f"Processing name: {name}")
    # Your processing logic here
    return result
2. Then, modify your flow to handle multiple tasks correctly:
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@flow(timeout_seconds=5)
async def my_flow(names: List[str]):
    logger = get_run_logger()
    
    # Option 1: Using asyncio.gather for concurrent execution
    tasks = [
        process_names.with_options(
            name=f"processed_name_{name}",
            persist_result=True,
            retries=0,
            timeout_seconds=5,
        )(name=name, logger=logger)
        for name in names
    ]
    
    # This will properly handle cancellation
    results = await asyncio.gather(*tasks, return_exceptions=True)
    
    # Option 2: If you need sequential execution
    for name in names:
        try:
            await process_names.with_options(
                name=f"processed_name_{name}",
                persist_result=True,
                retries=0,
                timeout_seconds=5,
            )(name=name, logger=logger)
        except Exception as e:
            logger.error(f"Error processing {name}: {e}")
Key improvements in this approach: 1. Use
async/await
consistently throughout your code 2. Properly handle task submission and awaiting 3. Use exception handling to catch and handle timeouts gracefully 4. Use
asyncio.gather
if you want concurrent execution with proper cancellation handling The reason your first example (
wait_awhile
) works better is that it's using proper async primitives that can respond to cancellation signals. The second example might be creating tasks in a way that doesn't properly integrate with Prefect's cancellation mechanisms. Also, ensure that any IO operations or long-running processes within your tasks are themselves cancellation-aware. If you're doing CPU-bound work or using blocking IO, you might need to add periodic cancellation checks:
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@task(retries=0)
async def process_names(name: str, logger: logging.Logger):
    <http://logger.info|logger.info>(f"Processing name: {name}")
    
    # If doing CPU-bound work, periodically check for cancellation
    for chunk in work_chunks:
        # Periodically yield control back to the event loop
        await asyncio.sleep(0)
        process_chunk(chunk)
        
    return result
This pattern will ensure that your tasks can properly respond to cancellation signals from the parent flow's timeout.
j
@Marvin if the result of the task is not a returned value but a write to storage, should i use await asyncio.gather(*tasks) or something else?
m
thought for 248.5 seconds
For tasks that write to storage rather than return values, you have several options depending on your specific needs: 1. If you need to ensure all tasks complete and handle any errors:
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@flow
async def my_flow(names: List[str]):
    logger = get_run_logger()
    
    tasks = [
        process_names.with_options(
            name=f"processed_name_{name}",
            retries=0,
            timeout_seconds=5,
        )(name=name, logger=logger)
        for name in names
    ]
    
    # Will wait for all tasks and collect any errors
    results = await asyncio.gather(*tasks, return_exceptions=True)
    
    # Check for any failures
    for name, result in zip(names, results):
        if isinstance(result, Exception):
            logger.error(f"Failed to process {name}: {result}")
2. If you want to process as many as possible and don't need to wait for all:
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@flow
async def my_flow(names: List[str]):
    logger = get_run_logger()
    
    async with asyncio.TaskGroup() as tg:
        for name in names:
            tg.create_task(
                process_names.with_options(
                    name=f"processed_name_{name}",
                    retries=0,
                    timeout_seconds=5,
                )(name=name, logger=logger)
            )
    # TaskGroup will wait for all tasks to complete or fail
3. If you need to control concurrency (recommended for storage writes):
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from prefect.tasks import task_input_hash
from datetime import timedelta

@flow
async def my_flow(names: List[str]):
    logger = get_run_logger()
    
    # Use task groups with concurrency limits
    async with asyncio.TaskGroup() as tg:
        # Process in chunks to limit concurrent storage writes
        chunk_size = 5  # Adjust based on your storage system's capacity
        for i in range(0, len(names), chunk_size):
            chunk = names[i:i + chunk_size]
            tasks = [
                process_names.with_options(
                    name=f"processed_name_{name}",
                    retries=0,
                    timeout_seconds=5,
                    # Add cache key if needed to prevent duplicate writes
                    cache_key_fn=task_input_hash,
                    cache_expiration=timedelta(hours=1),
                )(name=name, logger=logger)
                for name in chunk
            ]
            # Process each chunk concurrently
            await asyncio.gather(*tasks, return_exceptions=True)
4. If you need to ensure atomic writes or handle storage conflicts:
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from prefect.blocks.system import String
from prefect import task

@task(retries=0)
async def process_names(name: str, logger: logging.Logger):
    # Use Prefect blocks for atomic storage operations
    storage_block = await String.load("your-storage-block")
    
    try:
        # Your storage write logic here
        await storage_block.set(f"processed_{name}", "some_value")
        <http://logger.info|logger.info>(f"Successfully wrote {name} to storage")
    except Exception as e:
        logger.error(f"Failed to write {name}: {e}")
        raise

@flow
async def my_flow(names: List[str]):
    tasks = [process_names(name) for name in names]
    await asyncio.gather(*tasks, return_exceptions=True)
Key considerations for storage writes: 1. Concurrency Control: Be careful about how many concurrent writes you attempt. Storage systems often have limits. 2. Error Handling: Storage operations can fail, so proper error handling is crucial. 3. Atomicity: If you need atomic operations, consider using Prefect blocks or appropriate locking mechanisms. 4. Idempotency: Consider adding cache keys to prevent duplicate writes if your flow reruns. The choice between these patterns depends on your specific requirements: - How important is it to process all items? - What happens if some writes fail? - Does order matter? - What are the concurrency limits of your storage system