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# ask-marvin
g
@Marvin I have started the prefect server locally as usual with
prefect server start
. In the Browser-Dashboard I see two deployments, while only was added to
prefect.yaml
with the interactive CLI-Tool
prefect deploy ...
. The other one was not, but is defined as a flow in a .py. without the
.serve()
or `.deploy()`methods used (no mainblock in the .py included where these methods could be used). Does the server automatically include flows defined in .py? Or could this be some artifact from previous server starts from other branches or directories/repos?
m
The Prefect server does not automatically include flows defined in
.py
files unless explicitly deployed. The presence of unexpected deployments could be an artifact from previous server starts or deployments that were registered but not removed. Prefect deployments are server-side representations of flows, storing metadata for orchestration. They must be created and managed explicitly, typically using tools like
prefect deploy
. If you suspect an artifact from previous deployments, consider cleaning up your deployments through the Prefect UI or CLI to remove any unwanted entries. For further details on managing deployments and potential issues, you can refer to the Prefect deployment documentation. If you continue to encounter unexpected behavior, reviewing your server logs or checking for any open issues related to deployment artifacts on Prefect's GitHub issues might provide additional insights.
g
@Marvin writing a Readme for our project which runs on prefect 2.14.16 1. Must workers / work-pools be created before starting them? 2. Whats the difference if there is one between workers and work pools?
m
1. Must workers/work-pools be created before starting them? Yes, work pools must be created before starting workers. Work pools organize work for execution and have types corresponding to the infrastructure that will execute the flow code. Workers are lightweight processes that poll their respective work pools for scheduled flow runs to execute. You need to start a worker in a work pool to make it ready to execute tasks. For more details, refer to the Prefect tutorial on workers. 2. Difference between workers and work pools: - Work Pools: These organize and manage the execution of tasks. They act as a bridge between Prefect's orchestration environment and your execution environment. Work pools can be configured to either require workers to poll for tasks or directly submit tasks to serverless infrastructure. - Workers: These are processes that poll a work pool for flow runs to execute. They are responsible for executing the tasks on the specified infrastructure. Workers are necessary for "pull" type work pools, where they actively check for and retrieve tasks to execute. For more information, you can visit the work pools documentation.
g
@Marvin ok so If run locally (orchestration environment, execution environment is the same direcory/repo on a local machine) the work-pool would be created locally with
prefect work-pool create 'local-work-pool'
and be started with
prefect worker start --pool "local-work-pool"
? Or are work-pools not started and just created while workers are started (manually)?
m
In a local setup, you would indeed create a work pool using the command:
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prefect work-pool create 'local-work-pool'
However, work pools themselves are not "started" in the same way workers are. Work pools are created to organize the execution of tasks and can be thought of as channels through which tasks are dispatched. Once the work pool is created, you start a worker to poll the work pool and execute tasks:
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prefect worker start --pool "local-work-pool"
So, to clarify: work pools are created, and workers are started manually to execute tasks from those pools.
g
@Marvin so the worker is some prorgamm that is permanently run in the execution environment, while the work-pool is just a database entry? Or what is the work-pool?
m
Yes, your understanding is quite accurate: 1. Worker: This is a process that runs in the execution environment. It continuously polls a work pool for tasks to execute. In a local setup, you'd run this process on your local machine, and it remains active to pick up and execute tasks as they are scheduled. 2. Work Pool: Think of this as a logical construct or configuration rather than a physical entity. It acts as a coordination mechanism, organizing and managing the flow runs that need to be executed. Essentially, it's like a database entry that holds the configuration and state for task execution, determining which workers should execute which tasks based on the deployment configurations. In summary, the work pool organizes and queues up tasks, while the worker actively checks the work pool to execute those tasks.
g
@Marvin and why distinguish between execution and orchestration environment?
m
The distinction between execution and orchestration environments is important for scalability, flexibility, and separation of concerns: 1. Orchestration Environment: - This is where the Prefect server or Prefect Cloud runs. It handles scheduling, monitoring, and managing the flow runs. - The orchestration environment is responsible for coordinating tasks, storing metadata, and providing a user interface for managing workflows. 2. Execution Environment: - This is where the actual execution of tasks takes place. It could be local, on-premises, or in the cloud. - The execution environment hosts the workers that pick up tasks from work pools and execute them. Why Distinguish? - Scalability: By separating these environments, you can scale them independently. For example, you might need more execution power without changing your orchestration setup. - Flexibility: Different tasks may require different execution environments. Some might run locally, while others might need cloud resources. - Resource Optimization: Separating these allows you to optimize resources based on the specific needs of orchestration and execution tasks. - Security and Compliance: Certain tasks may need to run in specific environments due to compliance requirements, while orchestration can remain centralized. This separation allows Prefect to be flexible and adaptable to various deployment scenarios and operational needs.
g
@Marvin and work-pools are on which side?
m
Work pools are part of the orchestration environment. They serve as a coordination mechanism within Prefect's orchestration layer, organizing and managing the flow runs that are to be executed by workers in the execution environment. Here's how they fit into the overall architecture: - Orchestration Environment: This is where work pools reside. They manage the scheduling and distribution of tasks to workers. Work pools help in organizing tasks based on infrastructure requirements and allow for dynamic assignment of tasks to appropriate execution environments. - Execution Environment: This is where workers operate, polling the work pools for tasks to execute. The workers are responsible for the actual execution of tasks, based on the assignments given by the work pools in the orchestration environment. In essence, work pools act as a bridge between the orchestration and execution environments, facilitating the efficient distribution and execution of tasks.
g
@Marvin so work-pools can be understood as part of the prefect server
m
Yes, you can indeed think of work pools as part of the Prefect server's orchestration capabilities. They are a component within the Prefect server (or Prefect Cloud) that manages the scheduling and distribution of tasks to the appropriate execution environments. Work pools help organize and coordinate which workers should execute specific tasks based on the configurations and requirements set in your deployments. They play a crucial role in ensuring that tasks are efficiently managed and executed across different environments.
g
@Marvin and to complete - please explain the prefect server in easy terms
m
The Prefect server is like the control center for your workflow automation. Here's a simple breakdown: - Schedule and Manage: It schedules when and how your tasks should run. Think of it as a smart calendar that not only reminds you of tasks but also makes sure they get done. - Monitor and Track: It keeps an eye on all your workflows, tracking their progress and status. If something goes wrong, it can alert you, so you can fix issues quickly. - Coordinate: The server coordinates between different parts of your system, ensuring tasks run in the right order and at the right time, even if they are spread across different machines or environments. - User Interface: It provides a web dashboard where you can see and manage everything. You can view logs, check statuses, and adjust settings all from one place. In essence, the Prefect server acts as the brain of your operations, ensuring everything runs smoothly and efficiently.
g
@Marvin prefect init --recipe ... would be done in the orchestration-environment?
m
The
prefect init --recipe ...
command is typically executed in the execution environment, not the orchestration environment. This command sets up a Prefect project in your local development or execution environment where your flows are defined and developed. Here's what happens when you run `prefect init --recipe ...`: - Project Setup: It initializes a Prefect project structure in your local directory, setting up necessary configuration files like
prefect.yaml
. - Configuration: It helps configure your project with predefined templates or "recipes" to suit specific use cases or infrastructure setups. - Local Development: This is done in the environment where you develop and test your flows, which could be your local machine or any other environment where your code resides. In summary,
prefect init --recipe ...
is part of setting up your execution environment to work with Prefect, preparing it to define and manage flows that will later be orchestrated by the Prefect server.
g
@Marvin so whoch of these steps is executed in which environment and why?
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# 1. Creates prefect-project: 
# prefect init --recipe local

# 2. add configuration file to version control
# git add prefect.yaml

# 3. start prefect server in the orchestration-env
prefect server start

# 4. If run inside container, non locally or elsewhere, point from execution env to the server:
# prefect config set PREFECT_API_URL=http://<prefect-server-ip>/api

# 5. Create a work-pool in the orchestration env
prefect work-pool create 'local-work-pool'

# 6. Start a worker in the execution-env registered to an existing work-pool
prefect worker start --pool 'local-work-pool'
m
Here's a breakdown of where each step is executed and why: 1. Creates prefect-project:
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   prefect init --recipe local
- Environment: Execution Environment - Reason: This command sets up your project structure and configuration locally where you develop and test your flows. 2. Add configuration file to version control:
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   git add prefect.yaml
- Environment: Execution Environment - Reason: Version control is typically managed where your code resides, ensuring that configuration files are tracked with your project. 3. Start prefect server in the orchestration-env:
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   prefect server start
- Environment: Orchestration Environment - Reason: The Prefect server orchestrates and manages your workflows, so it runs in the orchestration environment to handle scheduling, monitoring, and coordination. 4. Point from execution env to the server:
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   prefect config set PREFECT_API_URL=http://<prefect-server-ip>/api
- Environment: Execution Environment - Reason: This configuration ensures that your local setup or any execution environment knows where to communicate with the Prefect server for orchestration. 5. Create a work-pool in the orchestration env:
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   prefect work-pool create 'local-work-pool'
- Environment: Orchestration Environment - Reason: Work pools are part of the orchestration layer, organizing and managing task execution. 6. Start a worker in the execution-env registered to an existing work-pool:
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   prefect worker start --pool 'local-work-pool'
- Environment: Execution Environment - Reason: Workers execute tasks and need to be started in the environment where the actual task execution will occur, polling the work pool for tasks.
g
@Marvin when creating the work-pool locally where orchestration and execution env are the same, which option should I choose for type, prefect agent? Process?
m
When creating a work pool locally where the orchestration and execution environments are the same, you have a couple of options for the type of work pool. Given your setup, you might consider using the "Process" type. Here's why: 1. Process Work Pool: - Type:
process
- Use Case: Ideal for local execution where tasks are run as subprocesses on the same machine. This is straightforward and suitable for development or small-scale local setups. - Command:
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     prefect work-pool create 'local-work-pool' --type process
2. Prefect Agent: - Type:
prefect-agent
- Use Case: If you are using agents from Prefect 2.x, you can continue with this, but it's typically recommended to transition to workers and work pools for a more enhanced experience. Agents are lightweight polling services that manage task execution. For a local setup where you want simplicity and direct execution, the "process" type is likely the most straightforward choice. It allows tasks to run directly as subprocesses in your local environment.
g
@Marvin I frequently get the error when starting a worker:
sqlite3.OperationalError: database is locked
, why?
m
The
sqlite3.OperationalError: database is locked
error typically occurs when there's contention for access to the SQLite database. Here are some common reasons and potential solutions: 1. Concurrent Access: SQLite is a lightweight database that can become locked when multiple processes or threads attempt to write to the database simultaneously. This is common in environments where multiple workers or services are accessing the database at the same time. 2. Long-Running Transactions: If a transaction takes too long to complete, it can lock the database for other operations. Ensure that your transactions are as short as possible. 3. Resource Limitations: If your system is under heavy load or has limited resources, it might struggle to handle database operations efficiently. Solutions: - Increase Timeout: You can increase the timeout period for SQLite operations to give transactions more time to complete. - Optimize Queries and Transactions: Ensure that your database queries and transactions are optimized to complete quickly. - Use a More Robust Database: For environments with high concurrency requirements, consider using a more robust database system like PostgreSQL instead of SQLite. - Limit Concurrent Access: Try to limit the number of concurrent operations accessing the database, or stagger them to reduce contention. For more detailed discussions and potential workarounds, you can refer to related GitHub issues such as this one and this one.