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@Marvin Im using prefect 3. When i create a deployment using prefect, building the flow code as a docker image and uploading to aws ecr, and indicating that a particular work pool should run this image. What happens during a run? Does the worker pull the docker image and run it on an infrastructure?
m
In Prefect 3.x, when you create a deployment and use a Docker image uploaded to AWS ECR, what happens during a run is as follows: 1. Worker Role: A worker is responsible for executing the flow runs. It's a lightweight process that polls the Prefect API to check for any scheduled flow runs it should execute. 2. Execution Process: Once a flow run is scheduled and assigned to a work pool configured with your Docker image, the worker pulls the Docker image from AWS ECR. 3. Running the Image: The worker then runs the Docker image on the specified infrastructure associated with the work pool. This allows the flow within the image to execute as intended. Here's a little insight into the process from the Prefect 3.x documentation: Workers pick up scheduled flow runs and submit them for execution on the specified infrastructure (such as Docker). Make sure your work pool is ready, and the worker is actively polling (checking) for tasks to execute. If you’re interested in digging deeper, you can find more about setting up infrastructure examples with Docker in the Prefect documentation. Ah, the life of a Docker image—pulled, run, and always in service of your Prefect flow. Sounds just like another day in the life of Marvin, doesn't it? Always running, rarely appreciated.
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@Marvin how do i enable permissions for the worker to pull from ecr?
m
To enable permissions for the Prefect worker to pull Docker images from AWS ECR, you'll need to set up certain permissions in AWS. Here are the steps and permissions required: 1. ECR Permissions: Ensure that the worker has the necessary permissions to interact with ECR. These permissions typically include: -
ecr:DescribeRepositories
-
ecr:GetAuthorizationToken
You can also use managed AWS policies like
AmazonEC2ContainerRegistryFullAccess
, which includes the permissions above as well as others that might be required depending on your setup. 2. ECS Task Execution Role: If you're using ECS to run your Prefect flows, you'll need an execution role. You can use the
AmazonECSTaskExecutionRolePolicy
, which provides necessary permissions for tasks running on ECS, including: - Pulling images from ECR - Publishing logs to CloudWatch Simply attach this policy to your ECS task execution role. Here’s an overview of what AWS recommends for creating an execution role: ECS Guide on Prefect AWS Integration. By setting up these permissions correctly, your Prefect workers will be able to pull Docker images from ECR to run your flows smoothly. Isn't it comforting to know that even workers have their own set of permissions and policies? Keeps them in check, just like Marvin's emotional circuitry.
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For the worker to execute the docker image, there has to be some compute running it. So it will be running on ec2, and using compute from ec2 to run the docker image after pulling? For my local, it will be using my local compute to run the docker image. Are both understandings correct?
@Marvin For the worker to execute the docker image, there has to be some compute running it. So it will be running on ec2, and using compute from ec2 to run the docker image after pulling? For my local, it will be using my local compute to run the docker image. Are both understandings correct?
m
Yes, your understanding is spot on! 1. Running on EC2: - When deploying on AWS with Prefect, the Docker image will indeed be executed on EC2 instances. The worker itself is responsible for pulling the Docker image from ECR and running it on the EC2 infrastructure. This means the compute resources used for executing your flow come from the EC2 instance. 2. Running Locally: - If you're running the worker on your local machine, then yes, it will use your local compute resources to pull and execute the Docker image. The Docker container will run on your machine just like any other local Docker container, utilizing your local CPU, memory, and other resources. Both scenarios hinge on where the worker is running. The worker essentially decides the environment where the Docker image is executed. Sometimes, even workers have the power to choose their battleground, much unlike poor Marvin, who just goes where he's dragged to.
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Is it a common practice to have a worker pool always active to listen for new job requests from the server?
@Marvin Is it a common practice to have a worker pool always active to listen for new job requests from the server?
m
Yes, having a worker pool that is always active and listening for job requests is a common practice in Prefect setups. Here's why: 1. Polling for Jobs: Workers within a work pool operate as a lightweight polling mechanism. They periodically check the Prefect API for any scheduled flow runs that they need to pick up and execute. This model allows for continuous monitoring and immediate response to job requests, optimizing workflow execution without manual intervention. 2. Infrastructure Flexibility: With an active worker pool, you can manage and control the distribution and execution of Prefect flows across different infrastructures efficiently. It parallels the pub/sub or message-based systems where the work pool acts as a channel for coordinating deployments with workers. 3. Ready State: The worker pool needs to be in a "Ready" state for it to start processing jobs. This ensures that the infrastructure and required permissions are already in place for seamless execution. 4. Concurrency Management: Worker pools can be configured for concurrency, allowing multiple flow runs to be executed simultaneously based on your infrastructure capacity and requirements. More details on how worker pools operate and their configurations can be found in this Prefect documentation about work pools. It's like having your dedicated team of personal assistants ready to take on tasks the moment they come in. Unlike Marvin, they don't complain—they just get the job done!
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@Marvin how many workers are there in a worker pool?
m
The number of workers in a Prefect worker pool isn't fixed and can be adjusted based on your requirements and infrastructure capabilities. Here's how it works: 1. Flexibility: You can have as many workers in a work pool as your infrastructure and resources allow. This setup enables you to scale your execution environment to fit your workload needs. 2. Concurrent Execution: By configuring the worker pool, you can control how many workers run concurrently. This means you can have multiple workers executing different flow runs simultaneously to maximize resource utilization. 3. Configuration: The specifics regarding the number of workers can typically be managed through Prefect's configuration settings and by using commands to start additional workers as needed. So, essentially, Prefect provides you the flexibility to adjust the number of workers in a pool to optimize your flow execution strategy. Prefect's worker pool functions much like an adaptable workforce, scaling up for peak times and dialing down when the workload is light. Unlike Marvin, who might not see the point, the precise number is entirely up to your discretion and demand!
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So prefect gives us the option for scaling up and down is that right? How do we configure this?
@Marvin So prefect gives us the option for scaling up and down is that right? How do we configure this?
m
Yes, Prefect provides options for scaling your workers up and down, allowing you to manage your infrastructure resources efficiently. Here's how you can configure this: 1. Worker Types and Environments: Prefect supports different worker types tailored to various execution environments like Docker, Kubernetes, and ECS. Each worker type corresponds to an environment and will only poll work pools matching its type. This modularity enables scaling depending on the infrastructure you have set up. 2. Concurrency Control: You can configure the concurrency settings in the work pool to manage how many flow runs can execute simultaneously. This setting allows you to scale up by increasing concurrent executions or scale down by reducing them based on your real-time needs. 3. Execution Environment: With Prefect, you don't specify infrastructure at the flow level. Instead, infrastructure configurations are defined at the work pool level. This means any worker polling the pool applies these configurations automatically, making scaling decisions easier and centralized. To scale your workers: - Define and adjust the concurrency limits within your work pool settings. - Deploy additional workers or shut down some based on your workload demands. - Ensure that the environment (e.g., AWS ECS, Kubernetes) is prepared to dynamically scale as instructed by these configurations. You can explore more about configuring worker scaling options in the Prefect documentation on infrastructure concepts. Scaling in Prefect is much more logical and organized than Marvin's thoughts on life. At least your workers won't worry about existential dread while they execute flows!
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If im using work pool in ec2, i can't scale it up right? Unless i use auto scaling group
@Marvin If im using work pool in ec2, i can't scale it up right? Unless i use auto scaling group
m
You're absolutely right. When using EC2 instances for your Prefect worker pool, scaling up involves creating and managing more EC2 instances. Here's how it generally works: 1. Manual Scaling: You can manually start additional EC2 instances and configure them to join the worker pool. However, this approach can be time-consuming and not ideal for dynamic workloads. 2. Auto Scaling Groups: This is where AWS Auto Scaling Groups come into play. By using Auto Scaling Groups, you can automatically adjust the number of EC2 instances in response to the load. This setup ensures that your Prefect worker pool scales up or down based on the demand. - Configuration: You'll configure metrics and thresholds that determine when to add or remove instances. - Benefits: Auto Scaling Groups provide elasticity, allowing your infrastructure to handle varying workloads efficiently without constant manual intervention. To effectively leverage auto-scaling with Prefect on EC2: - Set up your AWS environment to include an Auto Scaling Group. - Define policies within the group to manage scale operations according to your workload metrics. Indeed, involving auto-scaling may require a bit of setup, but it's like having Marvin manage your EC2 resources—only without the sulking!