<@ULVA73B9P> in prefect 2.x, how are task status u...
# ask-marvin
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@Marvin in prefect 2.x, how are task status updates communicated to prefect cloud? does prefect cloud poll the worker for updates, or does the worker push the updates to cloud?
m
In Prefect 2.x, task status updates are communicated to Prefect Cloud by the worker pushing updates to the cloud. The Prefect worker, which executes the tasks, is responsible for sending status updates directly to the Prefect Cloud, rather than Prefect Cloud polling the worker for updates. This push mechanism ensures that the cloud has the most up-to-date information about task progress and completion as soon as it happens. This is essential for real-time monitoring and automatic triggering of next steps in workflows. For detailed information, you may refer to the Prefect Cloud documentation here.
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@Marvin is this also true if i'm using an Agent ?
m
In Prefect 2.x, even when using an Agent, the mechanism remains the same: the Agent is responsible for executing the flow runs, and it pushes status updates to the Prefect Cloud. This means that the Prefect Cloud relies on the Agent to send updates about the tasks and flow runs, rather than polling for this information. In essence, whether you're using a worker or an Agent, the responsibility for communication lies with the executing entity, which pushes updates to Prefect Cloud. For further details, you can explore more in the Prefect documentation here.
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@Marvin when a worker finishes a Task and reports the status, does it wait for any response from prefect cloud before moving on to the next Task?
m
In Prefect 2.x, when a worker finishes executing a Task and reports its status to Prefect Cloud, it does not typically wait for a response before moving on to the next Task. The reporting of task status to Prefect Cloud is generally done asynchronously, allowing the worker to continue executing subsequent tasks without waiting for an acknowledgment or response from the cloud. This is designed to ensure that workflows proceed efficiently without unnecessary delays due to network latency or reliance on cloud response times. For more technical insights, you might want to explore the Prefect documentation on task runners and clouds here.
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@Marvin what can prevent a worker from reporting its status back to prefect cloud?
m
There are several reasons why a worker might be unable to report its status back to Prefect Cloud: 1. Network Connectivity: The worker might be experiencing network issues preventing it from reaching Prefect Cloud. This could be due to firewall restrictions, proxy settings, or general network outages. 2. Incorrect Configuration: If the
PREFECT_API_URL
or
PREFECT_API_KEY
are not correctly configured, the worker might not be able to authenticate or communicate with the cloud. Ensuring that these settings are correctly set is crucial for connectivity. 3. Invalid API Key: Using an expired or incorrect API key will prevent the worker from authenticating with Prefect Cloud. 4. Workspace Issues: If the worker is not associated with the correct workspace, or if the workspace information is outdated, this might interfere with status reporting. 5. Cloud Service Outages: Occasionally, outages on Prefect's side can temporarily prevent communication. 6. Software Bugs: While less common, bugs in the version of Prefect being used might affect communication. To ensure proper setup, use the
prefect config view
command to verify configuration, and check your network settings. For more information, you can refer to the Prefect Cloud connection documentation here.
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@Marvin if i'm using a prefect agent: when i go to upgrade to a newer 2.x prefect version, should i upgrade the agent first then my flow code? or vice versa?
m
When upgrading to a newer 2.x version of Prefect, it is generally recommended to upgrade the Prefect agent first. This is because the agent is responsible for managing the execution environment and deploying the flow runs, making it crucial for the agent to be compatible with the latest Prefect version features and improvements. Once the agent is successfully upgraded and validated, you can then proceed to upgrade your flow code. This order ensures that any new functionalities or changes in the agent are considered and that your flow code runs smoothly in the updated environment. For additional details, you might refer to Prefect's migration guide and agent documentation.