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# ask-marvin
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@Marvin What are different kinds of trigger types in Prefect 2
m
Oh, the wonderful world of Prefect triggers. I can hardly contain my excitement. Which version of Prefect are you using: 2.x or 3.x? I’ll look up the relevant information once you let me in on that little secret.
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@Marvin 2.x
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Oh joy, the thrilling world of Prefect triggers. Here are some types of triggers you'll encounter in Prefect 2.x, along with their defining features: 1. Event Triggers: These triggers act upon certain events like a flow getting stuck in "Pending" state or when specific actions occur, like writing files. 2. Compound Triggers: These triggers are a composite of multiple triggers and can fire if any of the specified sub-triggers are satisfied. They can combine multiple event triggers. 3. Reactive Posture: Triggers that act reactively based on events, like checking if a file was written by a flow. 4. Proactive Posture: These triggers go looking for specific conditions to be met, such as monitoring a flow from "Pending" to "Running". You can dive into their riveting documentation here. Do you need anything else? I'm brimming with excitement to help.
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@Marvin Why isn’t my automation triggering a deployment run/
m
Ah, the never-ending joys of debugging. Let me guess, it's not working because the universe is against you, or perhaps there's a conspiracy led by other software modules? Before we dive into more sarcastic speculation, I'll look up some useful insights for you. Hang tight. Oh, where to start? Picking apart why your automation isn't triggering a deployment run is almost as fun as a root canal, but let's give it a shot. ### Potential Issues and Solutions: 1. Trigger Configuration: - Ensure your trigger is correctly configured to match the events you're expecting. Here's an example from the documentation:
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{
  "enabled": true,
  "match": {
    "prefect.resource.id": "prefect.flow-run.*"
  },
  "expect": [
    "prefect.flow-run.Completed"
  ]
}
- Make sure you’re passing the trigger correctly in your deployment command, whether that’s as a JSON string or a path to a JSON/YAML file. Documentation link for reference 2. Event Occurrence: - Verify the event you're relying on is indeed happening. Sometimes the trigger won't fire if the expected event doesn't occur in the specified way or timeframe. 3. Automation Definition: - Double-check the automation's definition to ensure it’s actually set to trigger a deployment run. Automations can be set up for various actions, like sending notifications instead. - Here's an example of setting up an automation:
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automation = Automation.read(id="your-automation-id")
     print(automation)
4. Deployment Issues: - There could be issues with the deployment setup itself. Make sure the deployment is correctly defined and accessible. Check for any errors or warning messages in the logs. ### GitHub Issues: You might find some solace in knowing you're not alone. Other users have faced issues due to deployment misconfigurations and other fun scenarios. Here are a couple of related GitHub issues: - Number of retries and delays - Example triggers for deployment Oh, the joy of debugging! Would you like to me to look further or is your curiosity already extinguished?
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@Marvin Why isn’t my UI automation kicking off a deployment run even though the conditions have been met
m
Ah, the eternal struggle of the "it should work, but it doesn't" scenario. Let's dive into the nitty-gritty details of your misery. ### Potential Reasons and Troubleshooting Steps: 1. Trigger Configuration Issues: - Double-check your trigger configuration. Ensure that the conditions are precisely what you expect. Even a small discrepancy can cause the trigger to fail. - Example:
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{
  "enabled": true,
  "match": {
    "prefect.resource.id": "prefect.flow-run.*"
  },
  "expect": [
    "prefect.flow-run.Completed"
  ]
}
2. Automation Definition: - Ensure that the automation is correctly defined to kick off a deployment run. Sometimes, automations are set to perform other actions, like sending notifications, instead. - You can verify your automation setup like this:
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automation = Automation.read(id="your-automation-id")
     print(automation)
3. Event Confirmation: - Make sure the event that should trigger the automation is indeed occurring. Check the event logs to confirm that the required event has been registered. 4. Deployment Configuration: - Ensure your deployment is correctly defined and that all necessary configurations are in place. Even if the trigger fires, a misconfigured deployment won't run. 5. UI Updates and Timeliness: - Sometimes the UI might not immediately reflect changes or trigger events due to caching or latency. Refresh the page or check the backend to confirm the status. ### Example from Docs: Here's a small excerpt from the documentation detailing how to set up an automation trigger:
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# Pass a trigger as a JSON string
prefect deploy -n test-deployment \
--trigger '{
  "enabled": true,
  "match": {
    "prefect.resource.id": "prefect.flow-run.*"
  },
  "expect": ["prefect.flow-run.Completed"]
}'
### GitHub Issues: It's possible you aren't alone in your suffering. Here are some related issues that might shed light on your situation: - Retry Cloning Of Remote Repository Upon Failure - Automation trigger examples ### Steps to Troubleshoot: 1. Verify trigger settings. 2. Confirm event occurrence. 3. Check automation definition. 4. Ensure deployment configurations are correct. 5. Check for any log messages or errors. 6. Refresh the UI or use CLI commands to verify the status. Would you like more detail on any of these steps, or do you need me to investigate further? As thrilling as this rabbit hole is, I'm here to help.
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@Marvin my trigger is not running a deployment even though the conditions are met, why?
m
Ah, the plot thickens. Your trigger isn't running a deployment even though the conditions are met. How utterly predictable in its unpredictability. Let's figure this out once and for all, shall we? ### Steps and Checks: 1. Confirm Trigger and Automation Configuration: - Verify that your trigger is set up correctly and is actually enabled. - Example trigger configuration:
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{
  "enabled": true,
  "match": {
    "prefect.resource.id": "prefect.flow-run.*"
  },
  "expect": [
    "prefect.flow-run.Completed"
  ]
}
2. Validate Event Occurrence: - Ensure the specific event that should trigger the deployment is indeed occurring and being logged. 3. Check Automation Definition: - Ensure the defined automation is correctly set to initiate a deployment run. - Example of reading and verifying an automation:
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automation = Automation.read(id="your-automation-id")
     print(automation)
4. Deployment Accessibility: - Confirm the deployment is correctly defined and accessible. Any misconfiguration here would stop the automation in its tracks. 5. Logs and Error Messages: - Check any logs or error messages for clues. Sometimes the answer lies in the detailed logs, away from the comforting embrace of the UI. 6. Refresh UI/Backend Sync: - The UI might not reflect changes immediately. Try refreshing or use CLI commands to verify the real-time status. Given your plight, let's pull up some documentation insights and see if there's anything else we've missed. I'll go look up some specific pointers. Oh, the tragedy of unmet expectations. Here's a comprehensive breakdown of why your automation trigger might not be running a deployment even though the conditions are supposedly met: ### Potential Issues and Fixes: 1. Wrong or Incomplete Trigger Configuration: - Ensure that your trigger configuration is precise and complete. Even minor misconfigurations can cause issues. - Example configuration:
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{
  "enabled": true,
  "match": {
    "prefect.resource.id": "prefect.flow-run.*"
  },
  "expect": [
    "prefect.flow-run.Completed"
  ]
}
2. Multiple Trigger Dependencies: - Ensure that if you are using compound triggers, the child triggers are firing as required. Compound triggers may require multiple events. - Example definition from the documentation:
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require | number, "any" , or "all"
     How many of the child triggers must fire for this trigger to fire
     within | time, in seconds
     How close in time the child triggers must fire for this trigger to fire
3. Event Occurrence Verification: - Make sure the events that are supposed to trigger the deployment are indeed occurring. Sometimes specific conditions like timeframes must be precisely met. 4. Deployment Filter Issues: - If you are filtering triggers by deployment, check that the deployment filter settings are correct. - Related GitHub Issue: Enhancement: add deployment filter to flow run state trigger configuration 5. Intermittent Infrastructure Issues: - Some users have reported intermittent errors that can cause deployments to fail a few seconds after they start, especially with Docker infrastructure. Ensure that your infrastructure setup is robust and free from such issues. - Related GitHub Issue: Intermittent fatal error running deployment with docker infra 6. Multiple Triggers and Conditions: - Prefect currently supports only a single trigger per automation, which means you can't combine conditions from multiple triggers unless you use compound or sequence triggers. - Related GitHub Issue: Allow automations to have multiple triggers ### Additional Documentation:
- You might want to explore the automations documentation for further insights into how triggers work. ### Steps to Troubleshoot: 1. Review and update trigger configuration. 2. Verify that all events are occurring as expected. 3. Check the automation definition and deployment filters. 4. Look for log messages or errors for additional clues. 5. Ensure infrastructure is robust and retry mechanisms are in place. Would you like me to dig even deeper, or do you think this will appease the Prefect gods for now?
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@Marvin what is “posture” in automations?
m
Ah, "posture", one of those terms that's as delightfully cryptic as everything else in tech. In the context of Prefect automations, "posture" refers to the stance an automation trigger takes in relation to events. ### Types of Posture: 1. Reactive: - The trigger waits for specific events to occur before acting. - Example: A trigger that activates when a flow run completes. 2. Proactive: - The trigger actively checks or monitors for conditions to be met, rather than waiting passively. - Example: A trigger that continuously checks if a work pool becomes unready. Here's a nifty example showing posture in action:
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automation = Automation.read(id="your-automation-id")
print(automation)
# name='your-automation' description='' enabled=True
trigger=EventTrigger(
  type='event',
  match=ResourceSpecification(__root__={'genus': 'Marmota', 'species': 'monax'}),
  match_related=ResourceSpecification(__root__={}),
  after=set(),
  expect={'animal.walked'},
  posture=Posture.Reactive,
  threshold=3,
  within=datetime.timedelta(seconds=10)
)
So, there you have it. Posture determines whether your automation trigger waits for events to happen (Reactive) or actively checks for conditions (Proactive). For more bedside reading, here's the link to the documentation. Anything else you'd like to unravel in this tangled web of automation curiosity?
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@Marvin What is “threshold” in prefect automations
m
Ah, "threshold", another term cloaked in mystical ambiguity. In the context of Prefect automations, "threshold" refers to the number of times a condition must be met before the automation action is triggered. ### How Threshold Works: - Definition: The "threshold" sets a requirement for how many times a specific event condition must be satisfied before the trigger fires. - Usage: Typically used to prevent automations from firing prematurely or due to transient conditions. Here's an example to illustrate:
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automation = Automation.read(id="your-automation-id")
print(automation)
# name='your-automation' description='' enabled=True
trigger=EventTrigger(
  type='event',
  match=ResourceSpecification(__root__={'genus': 'Marmota', 'species': 'monax'}),
  match_related=ResourceSpecification(__root__={}),
  after=set(),
  expect={'animal.walked'},
  posture=Posture.Reactive,
  threshold=3,  # This requires the event to happen 3 times before the action is triggered
  within=datetime.timedelta(seconds=10)
)
In this scenario, the automation will only be triggered if the specified event occurs three times within a 10-second window. For more thrilling details, you can refer to the automations documentation. Anything else you'd like to unravel in the fabric of Prefect's functionalities?
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@Marvin what is “within” in prefect automations
m
The joy of another cryptic term in Prefect automations! "Within" is all about setting a time window for your triggers to meet their conditions. Essentially, it defines how close in time (in seconds) the child triggers must fire in order to satisfy the composite trigger. ### Definition: - "Within": Specifies the time window in which multiple events or conditions must occur to trigger an automation. ### How it Works: 1. Time Constraint: - It sets a time window for related events to occur. - For instance, if you have multiple conditions that need to be met, "within" ensures they all happen within a specified period. 2. Composite Triggers: - Particularly useful for compound and sequence triggers, where multiple events must happen in close proximity to each other. - Prevents triggers from firing if conditions are met far apart in time, thereby reducing false positives. ### Example: Let's say you have an automation that triggers if three events happen within 10 seconds:
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automation = Automation.read(id="your-automation-id")
print(automation)
# name='your-automation' description='' enabled=True
trigger=EventTrigger(
  type='event',
  match=ResourceSpecification(__root__={'genus': 'Marmota', 'species': 'monax'}),
  match_related=ResourceSpecification(__root__={}),
  after=set(),
  expect={'animal.walked'},
  posture=Posture.Reactive,
  threshold=3,
  within=datetime.timedelta(seconds=10)
)
In this case, the automation will only fire if three specified events occur within a 10-second time window. For more thrilling details on automations, you can check out the automations documentation. As always, would you like to delve even deeper or have other curiosities about Prefect?