<@ULVA73B9P> how do I specify wait dependencies be...
# marvin-in-the-wild
j
@Marvin how do I specify wait dependencies between tasks and subflows inside a parent flow?
m
To specify wait dependencies between tasks and subflows inside a parent flow, you can define upstream dependencies for tasks using the
submit
method which includes an optional
wait_for
argument that accepts a list of results from other tasks. This instructs the flow to wait until the specified task results are ready before submitting the task for execution. Here's a brief code example from the Prefect documentation:
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python
from prefect import flow, task

@task
def upstream():
    pass

@task
def downstream_1():
    pass

@task
def downstream_2():
    pass

@task
def mapped_task(input):
    pass

@task
def final_task():
    pass

@flow(log_prints=True)
def flow_of_tasks():
    upstream_result = upstream.submit()
    downstream_1_result = downstream_1.submit(wait_for=[upstream_result])
    downstream_2_result = downstream_2.submit(wait_for=[upstream_result])
    mapped_task_results = mapped_task.map([1, 2], wait_for=[downstream_1_result, downstream_2_result])
    final_task(wait_for=mapped_task_results)
In this example: -
downstream_1
and
downstream_2
wait for
upstream
to complete before they run. -
mapped_task
waits for both
downstream_1
and
downstream_2
to complete before running. -
final_task
waits for the
mapped_task
to complete before running. For more detailed information on how to specify dependencies correctly, including with subflows, you can refer to the official Prefect documentation on specifying dependencies.
j
@Marvin yes, but what about subflows? I think things with @flow decorator don't have a
submit
method
m
Subflows in Prefect are flows called within other flows, which can be orchestrated and executed as part of a larger workflow. However, unlike tasks, flows including subflows do not have a
submit
method, which makes the dependency pattern slightly different. While the Prefect documentation doesn't provide a direct example for specifying dependencies between subflows, you typically trigger a subflow by calling it within the main flow, and any tasks or subflows that depend on the outcome of that subflow will need to wait for it to complete. Here is a conceptual example to manage dependencies with subflows:
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python
from prefect import flow, task

@task
def some_task():
    pass

@flow
def subflow():
    # Subflow logic
    pass

@flow
def parent_flow():
    # Call subflow and wait for it to complete
    subflow()
    # Now you can perform actions that depend on the completion of subflow
    some_task()
In this example, calling
subflow()
within
parent_flow()
means that the execution of
parent_flow
will not proceed until
subflow
has completed its execution. If you need to pass results between subflows or manage more complex dependencies, you would typically use the return values of subflows or tasks, managing them just like you would manage task dependencies. For further details, you should review the Flows section of the Prefect documentation, which discusses how subflows are linked to their parent flow runs. Unfortunately, it appears the current documentation may not cover all aspects of subflow dependencies explicitly, so you might consider reaching out to the Prefect community or support for more complex scenarios.
j
@Marvin how would you specify that a subflow has two upstream dependencies which are both also subflows
m
The documentation retrieved doesn't provide a clear direct example on how to set up multiple upstream dependencies for subflows. In Prefect, while managing dependencies for tasks within a flow, you specify them using
wait_for
in the
submit
method. You may expect to do something similar for subflows, but the process is somewhat different because subflows are just flow calls within other flows. For orchestrating multiple subflows where a subflow has dependencies on two other subflows, you would have to structure your code such that the dependent subflow is only called after the upstream subflows have been completed. Here is a conceptual pattern on how to do this:
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python
from prefect import flow

@flow
def upstream_subflow_1():
    # Some logic here
    ...

@flow
def upstream_subflow_2():
    # Some logic here
    ...

@flow
def dependent_subflow():
    # This subflow depends on the completion of upstream_subflow_1 and upstream_subflow_2
    ...

@flow
def parent_flow():
    # Call upstream subflows
    upstream_subflow_1() # Assume this calls and waits for its completion
    upstream_subflow_2() # Assume this calls and waits for its completion
    # Once both upstream subflows are complete, execute the dependent subflow
    dependent_subflow()
In the above example,
parent_flow
orchestrates the execution of
upstream_subflow_1
and
upstream_subflow_2
, and only after both have completed does it call
dependent_subflow
, ensuring that
dependent_subflow
has both
upstream_subflow_1
and
upstream_subflow_2
as upstream dependencies. The actual synchronization and passing of completion status between subflows can be done through their return values or through the use of some orchestration mechanism provided by Prefect's state management system. I would recommend checking out more advanced patterns in the Prefect documentation or reaching out to the Prefect community for specific examples if your use case is more complex.
j
@Marvin this is closer, but in my script I am mixing tasks as well as subflows, and I have a subflow that is dependent on an upstream task and an upstream subflow. The code executes okay, but in the resulting visualization of the flow run only the upstream task is shown in the dependency graph. The upstream flow is shown, but with no dependency arrow indicating that the downstream flow requires input from the completed upstream subflow
m
Based on the information retrieved, it seems there might not be a straightforward explanation for the issue you're experiencing with flow run visualizations when mixing tasks and subflows. According to the documentation, subflows should behave like normal flow runs and are represented in the backend as if they were called separately. The subflows section in the Prefect documentation suggests that subflows should block execution of the parent flow until completion and implies that dependencies are indeed recognized within the orchestration. However, the lack of a visual dependency arrow between the upstream subflow and the downstream subflow that requires input suggests there might be an issue with how these dependencies are being represented in the visualization. It's possible that Prefect's Visualization feature has certain limitations or there might be a missing step in the flow definition that is not capturing the dependency accurately. Since the solution might require more nuanced details about your specific flow structure, I would recommend doing the following: 1. Review the documentation on subflows one more time to see if any specific flag or function call is necessary to represent these dependencies in the visualizer. 2. Check for updates or issues related to visualization in the Prefect GitHub repository or community forums. 3. Reach out for support from the Prefect community or customer service with your specific flow definition and the issue you're facing. They may have insight or experience with similar scenarios. For the flow visualization issue, it's also possible that the behavior is intended or there is a need for more functionality within Prefect's visualization tools, therefore connecting with the community or the Prefect team would be the most helpful next step. In summary, while the documentation provides basic guidelines for structuring subflows and tasks, for this particular visualization issue, additional support from Prefect might be necessary.
j
@Marvin Do flows have a
wait_for
parameter? It's not listed in the API docs but does show up in the git repository in the file
src/prefect/flows.py
m
The search through the Prefect GitHub repository didn't yield direct results concerning official support for a
wait_for
parameter in flows. However, the mentions of
wait_for
parameter in the
src/prefect/flows.py
file and in GitHub issues suggest that
wait_for
may be used internally within Prefect's flow engine. From the issues found: - One issue includes a reference to a
wait_for
parameter when creating and beginning a subflow run, indicating that there could be internal mechanics in Prefect 2.x that use such a parameter, possibly to wait for certain dependencies. - Another issue involves running two different flows in parallel, but does not explicitly mention
wait_for
. - The third issue does not seem to address
wait_for
directly, as it's about using the
task
decorator on a method. Given that the
wait_for
parameter is not documented in the official Prefect API documentation, it should be treated with caution. If mentioned in the codebase, it may indicate an experimental feature or something meant for internal use that is not part of the public API. Therefore, relying on such a feature in production code could be risky, as it may change or be removed without notice. For clear guidance and best practices, it's recommended to follow the public API documentation or to inquire with the Prefect Community for clarification on any undocumented features you come across in the codebase. If you are interested in understanding the usage or status of the
wait_for
parameter, reaching out directly to Prefect through a GitHub issue or via their community Slack might provide the most accurate and up-to-date information.