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@Marvin How to achieve parallel processing with cloud run?
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To achieve parallel processing with Cloud Run when using Prefect 2.x, you can follow these general steps: 1. Ensure you have a user or service account on Google Cloud with the necessary permissions to run serverless jobs. 2. Create an appropriate serverless work pool that uses a worker within the Prefect UI. 3. Create a deployment that references the work pool. 4. Start a worker in your chosen serverless cloud provider infrastructure, which in this case is Google Cloud Run. 5. Run the deployment. Prefect work pools facilitate parallel processing by allowing each worker, which may correspond to a Google Cloud Run instance, to poll the matched work pool for tasks. When tasks are available, the worker executes them, allowing for parallel execution across multiple Cloud Run instances. To get more detailed information and step-by-step guidance, you can follow the documentation available at Prefect Docs - Run Deployments on Serverless Infrastructure with Prefect Workers.
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@Marvin How is concurrency used in prefect?
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In Prefect 2.x, concurrency is used to control the number of flow runs that are allowed to execute simultaneously. Customizable concurrency limits can be set on work pools. Work pools are used to manage where and how flows should be run. By setting flow run concurrency limits on these work pools, you can control the number of concurrent executions, ensuring that your system does not get overloaded and that resources are used efficiently. For example, if a work pool is configured with a concurrency limit of 5, no more than five flow runs associated with that work pool will run at the same time. If additional flow runs are triggered while the concurrency limit is reached, they will be queued until one of the running flows completes. This feature allows for better management of your Prefect deployments, regardless of the scale at which you are operating. Concurrency limits were only available to Prefect Cloud users in Prefect 1, but Prefect 2 provides these limits with both the open-source Prefect server and Prefect Cloud. For more detailed information, you can refer to the Prefect documentation migration guide which highlights these changes from Prefect 1 to Prefect 2: Prefect Docs - Migration Guide.
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@Marvin Can subflows run on a different Cloud Run instance than that of its parent flow?
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Yes, subflows can run on a different Cloud Run instance than that of its parent flow in Prefect 2.x. When you use
run_deployment
to execute a pre-existing deployment as a subflow, the subflows will run according to the infrastructure associated with that particular deployment. This means that if the deployment specifies execution on a Cloud Run instance, each subflow can run on its designated Cloud Run instance, potentially different from the one on which the parent flow is running. This is in contrast to calling the
subflow()
object itself within a parent flow (e.g., using
asyncio.gather
), which will cause the subflow to run on the same infrastructure as the parent flow, essentially as a process within that infrastructure. Therefore, when you want subflows to run independently on different infrastructural components, such as separate Cloud Run instances, you should use deployments with their dedicated infrastructure definitions. Each subflow can be mapped to a different work pool, which in turn can be configured to run on various serverless infrastructures including different Cloud Run instances. For further insights into parallel execution of subflows, you may refer to the discussion on Prefect's Discourse: How can i run multiple subflows or child flows in parallel.
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@Marvin Provide me the diff bet concurrent and parallel.
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In computing, the terms "concurrency" and "parallelism" refer to different concepts related to task execution, even though they might sound similar: Concurrency refers to a system's ability to manage multiple tasks by allowing tasks to switch when blocking on IO or other waiting states. It does not necessarily mean the tasks are actually being executed at the same time; instead, they can interleave their execution on a single processor, whereby the execution of one task does not block the execution of others. This can be seen as task management in a way that gives the appearance of simultaneous execution. Parallelism, on the other hand, refers to a system's capacity to perform multiple operations truly simultaneously. In parallel execution, tasks literally run at the same time, often using multiple processors or cores. Parallelism takes advantage of computing resources with multiple units capable of independent operation, allowing for actual simultaneous task execution. To put it simply: - Concurrency is about dealing with many things at once (like a multitasking scheduler giving slots to multiple processes), which leads to overlapping executions but not necessarily simultaneous. - Parallelism is about doing many things at once (like a multicore processor executing multiple threads at the same time). These concepts are important when considering task execution in systems such as Prefect, which can utilize various task runners to execute workflows either concurrently or in parallel, depending on the needs of the application and the infrastructure available. For detailed information, you can refer to the Prefect documentation on task runners, which explains these concepts in the context of task execution with Prefect.
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@Marvin Now that you know that. Can parallelism between sub-flows be achieved?
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Yes, parallelism between sub-flows can be achieved in Prefect. By organizing your sub-flows as separate deployments and using appropriate infrastructure and work pools, you can run each sub-flow on different execution environments, which can include different cores, servers, or even cloud-based resources like Google Cloud Run instances. When each sub-flow has its own dedicated resources and is managed as an independent deployment, parallelism is inherently achieved because they can execute simultaneously without interfering with one another. Here's how you can achieve parallelism with sub-flows in Prefect: 1. Create separate deployments for each sub-flow, being sure to specify the entry points to your sub-flow code and any necessary parameters or configuration. 2. Assign a work pool with the desired concurrency limits for each sub-flow deployment. These work pools determine where and how each sub-flow execution will take place and can ensure that sub-flows run on separate infrastructural components. 3. Start workers within the serverless infrastructure (e.g., Google Cloud Run) for each work pool. These workers will poll their matched work pools for tasks and execute them on the assigned infrastructure. 4. Trigger the sub-flows either programmatically, via the Prefect UI, or through an automated schedule. Each sub-flow will run according to its deployment configurations. Since Prefect 2.x supports running each sub-flow according to the infrastructure associated with its deployment, it allows for parallel execution if the infrastructure and work pools are set up to allow for parallelism. This means that sub-flows can effectively run at the same time, utilizing different resources allocated to them via their respective work pools and infrastructure settings.
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@Marvin Can I set up the number of task for a Cloud Run Job?
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In Prefect 2.x, you can set flow run concurrency limits through work pools. Though the documentation excerpts provided do not explicitly mention setting up a specific number of tasks for a Cloud Run job, you can manage the concurrency of flow runs using work pools within your Prefect deployment for Google Cloud Run. Here are the steps typically involved: 1. Create a work pool in Prefect UI for your Google Cloud Run infrastructure. When configuring the work pool, you can specify concurrency limits. 2. Create a deployment for your flow, specifying the work pool you created as the execution environment. This deployment will include the necessary information about where and how your flow should run. 3. Launch a worker within your Google Cloud Run infrastructure that corresponds to the work pool. The worker will handle running tasks associated with flow runs. The concurrency limits you set in the work pool will effectively manage how many flow runs can occur simultaneously, which indirectly influences the number of tasks executed at a time since tasks are components of flow runs. However, it's essential to differentiate between tasks within a flow run and the flow run itself when it comes to concurrency. If you are referring to parallel task execution within a single flow run on Cloud Run, this will typically depend on the execution environment's configuration and the capabilities of Cloud Run itself, such as its ability to handle multiple container instances and how it scales. For precise guidance on setting the number of tasks or concurrency configuration for Cloud Run with Prefect, you would need to refer to the specific integration documentation or settings within Prefect for Google Cloud Run. If needed, you can also look up Google Cloud Run's documentation to understand better how concurrency is managed within its environment.